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> If $80m turns out to be $10m, is that a lie or an exaggeration? Yes, that would be considered a lie, or at least a gross exaggeration. But we can do the mat
by starik36 4y ago
> If $80m turns out to be $10m, is that a lie or an exaggeration?
Yes, that would be considered a lie, or at least a gross exaggeration.
But we can do the math using publically available information - assuming its correct. According to this article ( https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/us-quietly-paying-millions-send-starlink-terminals-ukraine-contrary-spacexs-claims/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/us-quietl... ) (which honestly feels like a click bait hit piece), as of Apr 8, there were 5000 terminals in the country. It says SpaceX paid for 3670 of those (so about 2/3), plus internet service for all.
As of May, there were 10k terminals (https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/02/ukraine-official-150000-using-spacexs-starlink-daily.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/02/ukraine-official-150000-usin...). Who knows how many there are now - 4 months later. So at $1500 a pop of what it costs to manufacture, plus probably same, if not more, to fly it to Poland, then transport it via land to Ukraine - the numbers add up. Add to that work being done to overcome Russian attempts at jamming (https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-spacex-russia-ramps-up-efforts-jam-starlink-ukraine-2022-5 https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-spacex-russia-ramp...). Add things that we are not aware of. I can see how costs can pile up.
> https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1374619379929772034 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1374619379929772034
But this isn't a lie. Come on.
- yupper32 4y agoGreat, that's $15m-$30m (if you accept that it's somehow $1500/unit to ship??). Only $50m-65m left to account for! And once again (and again and again...), I'm not claiming the $80m number is a lie. You just can't take that number as fact when the only source is his twitter. >> https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1374619379929772034 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1374619379929772034 > But this isn't a lie. Come on. One month after that tweet, Tesla announced selling 10% of their bitcoin stash, which they accumulated through their own purchases of bitcoin and customer transactions: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla-sold-bitcoin-q1-proceeds-202359810.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla-sold-bitcoin-q1-proceed... I have no idea how you get from that tweet to selling 10% of their bitcoin holdings without saying he lied. It's not like there was a massive time frame between the two. And you picked one out of a ton of lies to attempt to refute. What about my other examples?