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This is, I think, the single biggest factor in the proliferation of cheating. Most cheaters are smart enough to do the math on how they should win at the sport
by pclmulqdq 4y ago
This is, I think, the single biggest factor in the proliferation of cheating. Most cheaters are smart enough to do the math on how they should win at the sport, or is smart enough to hire someone who can do the math. In other words, cheaters are rational actors.
Allowing people back into the sport swings the EV math heavily in favor of cheating if the penalty isn't massive given that the chance of getting caught is so low (as long as you know what you're doing). The only way to make the EV of cheating negative is to make the sanction very, very bad. Losing all of your future earnings from the sport is a good way to do that.
I used to run Magic: the Gathering tournaments, and there was a tremendous amount of "minor" cheating - forgetting the rules when it benefits them, shuffling in suspicious ways, peeking at opponents decks, etc. Many competitive players even openly admitted to doing this. Even if a tournament official could call them on the cheating and disqualify them (which was frowned upon without hard evidence), they would likely not be suspended from sanctioned play at all unless the evidence was overwhelming. Several famous cheaters did it many times and got caught several times. Minor cheating was very common as a result.
- whatshisface 4y agoThe alternative - an environment where innocent people were sometimes getting expelled - would be worse when it's just a game.
- pclmulqdq 4y agoA tournament with a >$200,000 prize pool (the Sinquefeld cup or a Magic pro tour) is hardly "just a game."
- jonny_eh 4y agoSometimes people are caught red-handed.
- pclmulqdq 4y agoYeah, it doesn't have to involve banning people for life on borderline cases of cheating, but if you are caught red-handed, a lifetime ban seems in order.
- karaterobot 4y agoTwo things though: 1. He admitted to cheating twice, so it's not a question of an innocent man being punished by mistake. 2. As noted already, it's not a game, it's a professional sport that people at his level make their living doing, and every cheater in this scenario is stealing money from someone who has earned it.
- throwawaysleep 4y agoThis is why I constantly cheated in school. I got caught once and the penalty was a 0 on the test and a talking to. And only because I was a cheating noob. The benefits were in the thousands and thousands of scholarship dollars. I cheat now in my employment. I work three full time jobs remotely and do the bare minimum in each. The risk is getting fired (and if I only get fired from two of the jobs, I am still ahead of honest work). The payoff is decades taken off my working life.
- lotsofpulp 4y agoSelling your labor to multiple buyers and delivering acceptable work is not cheating.
- pclmulqdq 4y agoTechnically, they might sue you if you represent that you are working exclusively for them, which is a clause in most of these contracts. Still, not illegal.
- lotsofpulp 4y agoIf there is violation of an exclusivity agreement, then I would say it is cheating.
- sgjohnson 4y ago> Technically, they might sue you if you represent that you are working exclusively for them Is there any point in suing when there’s no damages?
- throwawaysleep 4y agoMy employers would have a huge problem with the code review rubber stamping and and complete lack of refactoring from me to achieve that.
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- sirshmooey 4y agoThis aptly describes the modern state of thoroughbred horse racing. The sport is littered with these so called “super-trainers”. All of which possess precedent defying win percentages. It’s gotten so bad, a federal governing body has been tasked to combat it. The anti-doping rules will take effect this January [1]. [1] https://www.hisaus.org/about https://www.hisaus.org/about