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> paint every cop as guilty by association without evidence it was the LAPD that opened fire on two old ladies in a truck that was the wrong type and color in

> paint every cop as guilty by association without evidence it was the LAPD that opened fire on two old ladies in a truck that was the wrong type and color in the middle of the day when they were trying to murder their colleague that put out a manifesto about how corrupt they were. Sure he was killing cops that he thought were corrupt but that's against the fold and a sign that they hold themselves to be unaccountable. dorner was the guy who they eventually burned to death in a cabin in the mountains. the old saying about the rotten apple is not that there is a rotten apple that is alone in the doings it's that the rotten apple spoils the barrel. you see one bad cop and if you don't have a system that stops that you will have a barrel full of rotten cops.

MichaelCollins 4y ago
> "[...] their colleague that put out a manifesto about how corrupt they were. Sure he was killing cops [...]" Dorner didn't just publish a manifesto and kill corrupt cops. He also murdered Monica Quan who's only 'fault' was being the daughter of a retired LAPD cop, and he murdered Keith Lawrence who's only crime was being Monica's fiance, with her when she was murdered. Your whitewashing Dorner for rhetorical effect to make the LAPD look worse. Don't do that. The truth is bad enough, it doesn't need to be 'enhanced'.
- notch656a 4y ago
  He published a manifesto and killed cops. These are incontrovertible facts. I see nothing "whitewashing" Dorner. It's utterly bizarre to see every time someone mentions Dorner's killings or manifesto, people come out of the woodwork to make sure we don't defend the honor or whitewash Dorner or whatever perceived sin you see of accidently somehow not saying enough bad things about Dorner.
  - MichaelCollins 4y ago
    The whitewashing is weaksauce's failure to mention that Dorner was also killing people who weren't police. This whitewashing was done for rhetorical effect, to make the LAPD seem worse by making Dorner seem better. This is completely unnecessary, because the facts of the case are already bad enough for the LAPD.
  - donmaq 4y ago
    Or notice how the core of his manifesto is ignored: that of all the police who horribly beat Rodney King & sent him to an early death, all were significantly rewarded in their careers and/or retirement. No lasting institutional changes were made.
bsagdiyev 4y ago
I lived in the Lake Arrowhead area around that time. There were no shortage of people who said they'd let Dorner shack up with them if he stumbled in to their place.

MichaelCollins 4y ago

> "[...] their colleague that put out a manifesto about how corrupt they were. Sure he was killing cops [...]" Dorner didn't just publish a manifesto and kill corrupt cops. He also murdered Monica Quan who's only 'fault' was being the daughter of a retired LAPD cop, and he murdered Keith Lawrence who's only crime was being Monica's fiance, with her when she was murdered. Your whitewashing Dorner for rhetorical effect to make the LAPD look worse. Don't do that. The truth is bad enough, it doesn't need to be 'enhanced'.

notch656a 4y ago
He published a manifesto and killed cops. These are incontrovertible facts. I see nothing "whitewashing" Dorner. It's utterly bizarre to see every time someone mentions Dorner's killings or manifesto, people come out of the woodwork to make sure we don't defend the honor or whitewash Dorner or whatever perceived sin you see of accidently somehow not saying enough bad things about Dorner.
- MichaelCollins 4y ago
  The whitewashing is weaksauce's failure to mention that Dorner was also killing people who weren't police. This whitewashing was done for rhetorical effect, to make the LAPD seem worse by making Dorner seem better. This is completely unnecessary, because the facts of the case are already bad enough for the LAPD.
- donmaq 4y ago
  Or notice how the core of his manifesto is ignored: that of all the police who horribly beat Rodney King & sent him to an early death, all were significantly rewarded in their careers and/or retirement. No lasting institutional changes were made.

bsagdiyev 4y ago

I lived in the Lake Arrowhead area around that time. There were no shortage of people who said they'd let Dorner shack up with them if he stumbled in to their place.