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LAPD and LASD are different orgs, but yeah they are probably both corrupt to the core. I know for a fact that there was a LASD gang called the Compton Execution

LAPD and LASD are different orgs, but yeah they are probably both corrupt to the core. I know for a fact that there was a LASD gang called the Compton Executioners that excluded women and people of color.

maratbn 4y ago
damn, with a name like "Compton Executioners" I would be proud to be excluded
akiselev 4y ago
Great catch! As a long time resident of LA, few people make the distinction (I surely didn’t). The LAPD has its fair share of awfulness [1] but when the allegations are this bad it’s important not to paint every cop as guilty by association without evidence (and the evidence against the LASD is very strong) [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riots https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riots
- weaksauce 4y ago
  > paint every cop as guilty by association without evidence it was the LAPD that opened fire on two old ladies in a truck that was the wrong type and color in the middle of the day when they were trying to murder their colleague that put out a manifesto about how corrupt they were. Sure he was killing cops that he thought were corrupt but that's against the fold and a sign that they hold themselves to be unaccountable. dorner was the guy who they eventually burned to death in a cabin in the mountains. the old saying about the rotten apple is not that there is a rotten apple that is alone in the doings it's that the rotten apple spoils the barrel. you see one bad cop and if you don't have a system that stops that you will have a barrel full of rotten cops.
  - MichaelCollins 4y ago
    > "[...] their colleague that put out a manifesto about how corrupt they were. Sure he was killing cops [...]" Dorner didn't just publish a manifesto and kill corrupt cops. He also murdered Monica Quan who's only 'fault' was being the daughter of a retired LAPD cop, and he murdered Keith Lawrence who's only crime was being Monica's fiance, with her when she was murdered. Your whitewashing Dorner for rhetorical effect to make the LAPD look worse. Don't do that. The truth is bad enough, it doesn't need to be 'enhanced'.
    - notch656a 4y ago
      He published a manifesto and killed cops. These are incontrovertible facts. I see nothing "whitewashing" Dorner. It's utterly bizarre to see every time someone mentions Dorner's killings or manifesto, people come out of the woodwork to make sure we don't defend the honor or whitewash Dorner or whatever perceived sin you see of accidently somehow not saying enough bad things about Dorner.
      - MichaelCollins 4y ago
        The whitewashing is weaksauce's failure to mention that Dorner was also killing people who weren't police. This whitewashing was done for rhetorical effect, to make the LAPD seem worse by making Dorner seem better. This is completely unnecessary, because the facts of the case are already bad enough for the LAPD.
      - donmaq 4y ago
        Or notice how the core of his manifesto is ignored: that of all the police who horribly beat Rodney King & sent him to an early death, all were significantly rewarded in their careers and/or retirement. No lasting institutional changes were made.
  - bsagdiyev 4y ago
    I lived in the Lake Arrowhead area around that time. There were no shortage of people who said they'd let Dorner shack up with them if he stumbled in to their place.

maratbn 4y ago

damn, with a name like "Compton Executioners" I would be proud to be excluded

akiselev 4y ago

Great catch! As a long time resident of LA, few people make the distinction (I surely didn’t). The LAPD has its fair share of awfulness [1] but when the allegations are this bad it’s important not to paint every cop as guilty by association without evidence (and the evidence against the LASD is very strong) [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riots https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riots

weaksauce 4y ago
> paint every cop as guilty by association without evidence it was the LAPD that opened fire on two old ladies in a truck that was the wrong type and color in the middle of the day when they were trying to murder their colleague that put out a manifesto about how corrupt they were. Sure he was killing cops that he thought were corrupt but that's against the fold and a sign that they hold themselves to be unaccountable. dorner was the guy who they eventually burned to death in a cabin in the mountains. the old saying about the rotten apple is not that there is a rotten apple that is alone in the doings it's that the rotten apple spoils the barrel. you see one bad cop and if you don't have a system that stops that you will have a barrel full of rotten cops.
- MichaelCollins 4y ago
  > "[...] their colleague that put out a manifesto about how corrupt they were. Sure he was killing cops [...]" Dorner didn't just publish a manifesto and kill corrupt cops. He also murdered Monica Quan who's only 'fault' was being the daughter of a retired LAPD cop, and he murdered Keith Lawrence who's only crime was being Monica's fiance, with her when she was murdered. Your whitewashing Dorner for rhetorical effect to make the LAPD look worse. Don't do that. The truth is bad enough, it doesn't need to be 'enhanced'.
  - notch656a 4y ago
    He published a manifesto and killed cops. These are incontrovertible facts. I see nothing "whitewashing" Dorner. It's utterly bizarre to see every time someone mentions Dorner's killings or manifesto, people come out of the woodwork to make sure we don't defend the honor or whitewash Dorner or whatever perceived sin you see of accidently somehow not saying enough bad things about Dorner.
    - MichaelCollins 4y ago
      The whitewashing is weaksauce's failure to mention that Dorner was also killing people who weren't police. This whitewashing was done for rhetorical effect, to make the LAPD seem worse by making Dorner seem better. This is completely unnecessary, because the facts of the case are already bad enough for the LAPD.
    - donmaq 4y ago
      Or notice how the core of his manifesto is ignored: that of all the police who horribly beat Rodney King & sent him to an early death, all were significantly rewarded in their careers and/or retirement. No lasting institutional changes were made.
- bsagdiyev 4y ago
  I lived in the Lake Arrowhead area around that time. There were no shortage of people who said they'd let Dorner shack up with them if he stumbled in to their place.