Agreed, neither a 4 yr degree nor a bootcamp is a guarantee of success. But one of the biggest things I am looking for out of new grads is base-level systems th

Agreed, neither a 4 yr degree nor a bootcamp is a guarantee of success. But one of the biggest things I am looking for out of new grads is base-level systems thinking capabilities. I'd rather have that than dev-skills, and, ime, CS grads tend to be more likely to be trained in that way (but every candidate is unique). But I think bootcamps are at a disadvantage in such comparisons because they tend to be so accelerated -- I wonder what a good 2 year bootcamp curriculum would look like.