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Climate change is far from the only environmental problem have. Sure, it's the biggest but also the biggest to solve. And the EU has had a consistent push to s

by _abox 4y ago

Climate change is far from the only environmental problem have. Sure, it's the biggest but also the biggest to solve. And the EU has had a consistent push to solve it, unlike the US, which for instance during the Trump era pulled out of the Paris accord.

blue_light_man 4y ago
The solution for climate change would come from technology. Not random politicians virtue signalling and signing useless agreements which doesn't make any meaningful difference.
- p_j_w 4y ago
  We've known about climate change for decades and global CO2 output has only increased. Just assuming technology will solve it is foolish.
- palata 4y ago
  Technology is the problem, not the solution. Doing more technology increases the problem, as can been seen from the data over the last decades. What you're looking for is magic. Magic would solve it.
  - GekkePrutser 4y ago
    I'm surprised people still bring up carbon capture tech as a solution. It happens a lot around here lately but it's just such wishful thinking IMO. If you have that much carbon-neutral energy, carbon-neutral materials, space, maintenance to really make a dent... And all those things don't displace green resources that could have been used for other necessary things instead... You wouldn't have had any problem to begin with. See how much shit we get here when we get a few % less natural gas here in Europe. We're in a huge crisis over just that. That's a promille of what we'd need to capture enough carbon for 0.01 degree cooling. It's just some distraction from the hard things that are needed to solve it. And a big paycheck for the industry behind it obviously.
    - palata 4y ago
      It's simpler to think "technology will save us" than "we as a species screwed up and have already destroyed 2/3 of wild life (not talking about the consequences of global warming, that's yet to come), maybe we should change drastically".

by _abox 4y ago

blue_light_man 4y ago

The solution for climate change would come from technology. Not random politicians virtue signalling and signing useless agreements which doesn't make any meaningful difference.

p_j_w 4y ago
We've known about climate change for decades and global CO2 output has only increased. Just assuming technology will solve it is foolish.
palata 4y ago
Technology is the problem, not the solution. Doing more technology increases the problem, as can been seen from the data over the last decades. What you're looking for is magic. Magic would solve it.
- GekkePrutser 4y ago
  I'm surprised people still bring up carbon capture tech as a solution. It happens a lot around here lately but it's just such wishful thinking IMO. If you have that much carbon-neutral energy, carbon-neutral materials, space, maintenance to really make a dent... And all those things don't displace green resources that could have been used for other necessary things instead... You wouldn't have had any problem to begin with. See how much shit we get here when we get a few % less natural gas here in Europe. We're in a huge crisis over just that. That's a promille of what we'd need to capture enough carbon for 0.01 degree cooling. It's just some distraction from the hard things that are needed to solve it. And a big paycheck for the industry behind it obviously.
  - palata 4y ago
    It's simpler to think "technology will save us" than "we as a species screwed up and have already destroyed 2/3 of wild life (not talking about the consequences of global warming, that's yet to come), maybe we should change drastically".