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My health care provider has chiropractors in the same office with MDs. I think it is the same thing.

smsm42 4y ago
It'd be the same thing if the chiropractor was actually sitting on the other side of the planet and would do movements that'd hurt you if you were in the same room with them, but the theory were that since the action is so weak as to be imperceptible by you, it is actually somehow healing you, and the further the chiropractor is from you, the stronger is the effect. In fact, I wonder why nobody is doing homeopathic chiroptactic via Zoom yet... Looks like a good startup idea.
- chihuahua 4y ago
  I used to know some people who were pleased that they could received their Aura massage over the phone, as it saved the inconvenience of visiting their Aura massage provider in person. For those who are not fully caught up on Gwyneth Paltrow bullshit, an "Aura massage" involves a charlatan waving their hands near you, without touching you.
zackmorris 4y ago
I can't tell if you're supporting or criticizing chiropractic care, but I agree that its philosophy maybe aligns with homeopathic remedies. Someone has either had good results from chiro, or hasn't found a good practitioner yet IMHO. We forget that the body always heals itself, drugs are just a way to suppress an infection long enough for the immune system to catch up. I dunno, I would always recommend joint manipulation, massage, rehab/PT and other holistic and integrative approaches over surgery. I've known multiple people who have had stuff like back surgery and just not had a good result. Whereas athletes and gym rats like me come back from pretty significant injuries all the time. I view the body as fungible and almost an expression of the mind, not something that declines and needs all this medication. The magic pill is basically to show up and do the work, but nobody wants to believe that or that it's that simple, because practicing the discipline of proper exercise and nutrition can be hard. And frankly not always feasible in today's world which prioritizes external reward over internal health.
- tradertef 4y ago
  I am not supporting chiropractic care. It creates more issues than it resolves IMO.
  - AlexandrB 4y ago
    It's also sometimes prescribed for infants or children, individuals who are in no way "in decline" or would otherwise require surgery: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2794701/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2794701/
    - zackmorris 4y ago
      Yeesh, it should NOT be prescribed for kids, I agree. I've experienced chiro working (borderline miraculously) after months of no improvement with massage/stretching/anti-inflammatories, but there is a tiny risk of nerve damage and stroke etc which shouldn't be taken lightly or without consent.
kyralis 4y ago
Chiropractors are a little more interesting. There are a lot of quacks out there that claim that aligning your spine will cure cancer, but the reputable ones can actually improve some things. My wife has an issue with her SI joint that she works with both a sports medicine doctor and a chiropractor on, and the chiropractor legitimately improves a misalignment around that joint that happens over time due to muscle weakness and the injury. It's not a permanent fix, unfortunately, but it's a necessary step toward then allowing PT to work on the muscle.
- unclenoriega 4y ago
  The thing to me is, "chiropractic" is quackery. The reputable ones aren't doing chiropractic, and by using the name they're lending credence to an unscientific field.

It'd be the same thing if the chiropractor was actually sitting on the other side of the planet and would do movements that'd hurt you if you were in the same room with them, but the theory were that since the action is so weak as to be imperceptible by you, it is actually somehow healing you, and the further the chiropractor is from you, the stronger is the effect. In fact, I wonder why nobody is doing homeopathic chiroptactic via Zoom yet... Looks like a good startup idea.

chihuahua 4y ago
I used to know some people who were pleased that they could received their Aura massage over the phone, as it saved the inconvenience of visiting their Aura massage provider in person. For those who are not fully caught up on Gwyneth Paltrow bullshit, an "Aura massage" involves a charlatan waving their hands near you, without touching you.

zackmorris 4y ago

I can't tell if you're supporting or criticizing chiropractic care, but I agree that its philosophy maybe aligns with homeopathic remedies. Someone has either had good results from chiro, or hasn't found a good practitioner yet IMHO. We forget that the body always heals itself, drugs are just a way to suppress an infection long enough for the immune system to catch up. I dunno, I would always recommend joint manipulation, massage, rehab/PT and other holistic and integrative approaches over surgery. I've known multiple people who have had stuff like back surgery and just not had a good result. Whereas athletes and gym rats like me come back from pretty significant injuries all the time. I view the body as fungible and almost an expression of the mind, not something that declines and needs all this medication. The magic pill is basically to show up and do the work, but nobody wants to believe that or that it's that simple, because practicing the discipline of proper exercise and nutrition can be hard. And frankly not always feasible in today's world which prioritizes external reward over internal health.

tradertef 4y ago
I am not supporting chiropractic care. It creates more issues than it resolves IMO.
- AlexandrB 4y ago
  It's also sometimes prescribed for infants or children, individuals who are in no way "in decline" or would otherwise require surgery: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2794701/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2794701/
  - zackmorris 4y ago
    Yeesh, it should NOT be prescribed for kids, I agree. I've experienced chiro working (borderline miraculously) after months of no improvement with massage/stretching/anti-inflammatories, but there is a tiny risk of nerve damage and stroke etc which shouldn't be taken lightly or without consent.

kyralis 4y ago

Chiropractors are a little more interesting. There are a lot of quacks out there that claim that aligning your spine will cure cancer, but the reputable ones can actually improve some things. My wife has an issue with her SI joint that she works with both a sports medicine doctor and a chiropractor on, and the chiropractor legitimately improves a misalignment around that joint that happens over time due to muscle weakness and the injury. It's not a permanent fix, unfortunately, but it's a necessary step toward then allowing PT to work on the muscle.

unclenoriega 4y ago
The thing to me is, "chiropractic" is quackery. The reputable ones aren't doing chiropractic, and by using the name they're lending credence to an unscientific field.