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The majority of MDs don't believe in homeopathic medicine. Naturopaths are authority figures?

lotsofpulp 4y ago
They have “doctoral” degrees, they call themselves “Dr”, and can even prescribe in Washington state. Absolutely mind boggling.
- carrotcarrot 4y ago
  They go through the same work as non naturopath Made in addition to their naturopathic work. Whycant you allow people who want their care to go to them? They're not misleading people, theyre offering an alternative.
  - lotsofpulp 4y ago
    There is no alternative to clinical trials. Either a medicine (or treatment) has evidence behind it, or it does not. And whatever education or tests naturopaths do are not comparable to what MDs have to do.
  - themitigating 4y ago
    If I had a medicial degree, opened a clinic to treat patients for cancer, and the medicine I used had no emperical evidence that it works (meaning some probability of success determined used a properly done study) should that be acceptable? Even if I told patients I think thought the treatment would work but it's not FDA approved.
- sigstoat 4y ago
  > can even prescribe in Washington state how does that work? the DEA controls the ability to prescribe, and they're federal.
  - lotsofpulp 4y ago
    I do not know. I presume DEA tracks prescriptions, but does not decide who can and cannot prescribe. https://centerforinquiry.org/news/washington-bill-would-expand-naturopathic-prescription-authority/ https://centerforinquiry.org/news/washington-bill-would-expa... https://app.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=246-836-210 https://app.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=246-836-210
carrotcarrot 4y ago
In Europe naturopathy is more common. I would say MDs en masse hold similar views to the general populace. Most MDs aren't reading research papers, they're simply repeating what they get told in school and the attitudes they observe around different treatments. I'm not trying to say this is bad necessarily but it is not a very scientific or rigorous way to do things. Most MDs think fast on their feet and have a blast knowledge of treatment for different things but they don't have a lot of experience working on nuance.
- themitigating 4y ago
  The science is the research paper and you might say "what if the numbers were fudged" I doubt a doctor is going to figure that out just reading it. Besides emergency room doctors, I don't think they have to think fast.

They have “doctoral” degrees, they call themselves “Dr”, and can even prescribe in Washington state. Absolutely mind boggling.

carrotcarrot 4y ago
They go through the same work as non naturopath Made in addition to their naturopathic work. Whycant you allow people who want their care to go to them? They're not misleading people, theyre offering an alternative.
- lotsofpulp 4y ago
  There is no alternative to clinical trials. Either a medicine (or treatment) has evidence behind it, or it does not. And whatever education or tests naturopaths do are not comparable to what MDs have to do.
- themitigating 4y ago
  If I had a medicial degree, opened a clinic to treat patients for cancer, and the medicine I used had no emperical evidence that it works (meaning some probability of success determined used a properly done study) should that be acceptable? Even if I told patients I think thought the treatment would work but it's not FDA approved.
sigstoat 4y ago
> can even prescribe in Washington state how does that work? the DEA controls the ability to prescribe, and they're federal.
- lotsofpulp 4y ago
  I do not know. I presume DEA tracks prescriptions, but does not decide who can and cannot prescribe. https://centerforinquiry.org/news/washington-bill-would-expand-naturopathic-prescription-authority/ https://centerforinquiry.org/news/washington-bill-would-expa... https://app.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=246-836-210 https://app.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=246-836-210

carrotcarrot 4y ago

In Europe naturopathy is more common. I would say MDs en masse hold similar views to the general populace. Most MDs aren't reading research papers, they're simply repeating what they get told in school and the attitudes they observe around different treatments. I'm not trying to say this is bad necessarily but it is not a very scientific or rigorous way to do things. Most MDs think fast on their feet and have a blast knowledge of treatment for different things but they don't have a lot of experience working on nuance.

themitigating 4y ago
The science is the research paper and you might say "what if the numbers were fudged" I doubt a doctor is going to figure that out just reading it. Besides emergency room doctors, I don't think they have to think fast.