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> workers should own the means of production Or even believing a worker performing work and creating wealth should not have his surplus labor time expropriated

> workers should own the means of production Or even believing a worker performing work and creating wealth should not have his surplus labor time expropriated by some idle class heir. The hunter-gatherer bands roaming the Amazon are communist, and free of such exploitation (if they avoid mining companies trying to kill them) - I suppose these hunter gatherers are equivalents to the Nazis.

random314 4y ago
This is the magic of American propaganda that workers will lash out against you if you hint that, perhaps maybe, workers deserve a slightly bigger portion of the pie. Americans today have no idea why they celebrate labor day. It comes and goes with the media and government glossing over it as a "long weekend". My original comment is at -1 now, downvoted by employees of corporations because I argued for them.
- pessimizer 4y ago
  > Americans today have no idea why they celebrate labor day. It comes and goes with the media and government glossing over it as a "long weekend". It's worse. Americans have no idea that May Day is a holiday that originated in America. Instead, our government changed May 1 into "Law Day," the holiday when we celebrate obeying the law, and created a fake-ass state "Labor Day."
  - random314 4y ago
    I Completely missed that. TIL. "There was disagreement among labor unions at this time about when a holiday celebrating workers should be, with some advocating for continued emphasis of the September march-and-picnic date while others sought the designation of the more politically charged date of May 1. Conservative Democratic President Grover Cleveland was one of those concerned that a labor holiday on May 1 would tend to become a commemoration of the Haymarket affair and would strengthen socialist and anarchist movements that backed the May 1 commemoration around the globe.[19] In 1887, he publicly supported the September Labor Day holiday as a less inflammatory alternative,[20] formally adopting the date as a United States federal holiday through a law that he signed in 1894.[9]"
    - mickdeek86 4y ago
      Worse still, Haymarket square and Fulton market, only ten years ago a bustling testament to the working man with stevedores chaotically driving pallets around and across the brick-paved street, bike messengers whizzing around the forklifts. Now it's a bunch of helvetica-menu restaurants and FAANG offices, basically our SoMa.
      - random314 4y ago
        Alright my original comment is at -3 and flagged!

random314 4y ago

This is the magic of American propaganda that workers will lash out against you if you hint that, perhaps maybe, workers deserve a slightly bigger portion of the pie. Americans today have no idea why they celebrate labor day. It comes and goes with the media and government glossing over it as a "long weekend". My original comment is at -1 now, downvoted by employees of corporations because I argued for them.

pessimizer 4y ago
> Americans today have no idea why they celebrate labor day. It comes and goes with the media and government glossing over it as a "long weekend". It's worse. Americans have no idea that May Day is a holiday that originated in America. Instead, our government changed May 1 into "Law Day," the holiday when we celebrate obeying the law, and created a fake-ass state "Labor Day."
- random314 4y ago
  I Completely missed that. TIL. "There was disagreement among labor unions at this time about when a holiday celebrating workers should be, with some advocating for continued emphasis of the September march-and-picnic date while others sought the designation of the more politically charged date of May 1. Conservative Democratic President Grover Cleveland was one of those concerned that a labor holiday on May 1 would tend to become a commemoration of the Haymarket affair and would strengthen socialist and anarchist movements that backed the May 1 commemoration around the globe.[19] In 1887, he publicly supported the September Labor Day holiday as a less inflammatory alternative,[20] formally adopting the date as a United States federal holiday through a law that he signed in 1894.[9]"
  - mickdeek86 4y ago
    Worse still, Haymarket square and Fulton market, only ten years ago a bustling testament to the working man with stevedores chaotically driving pallets around and across the brick-paved street, bike messengers whizzing around the forklifts. Now it's a bunch of helvetica-menu restaurants and FAANG offices, basically our SoMa.
    - random314 4y ago
      Alright my original comment is at -3 and flagged!