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That won't fix the core problem though - the platforms will just use another word for it and you still won't be able to take your content with you on a vacation

by izacus 4y ago

That won't fix the core problem though - the platforms will just use another word for it and you still won't be able to take your content with you on a vacation or give it to your friends and family. It's a massive degradation of consumer rights you had guaranteed with physical media.

dml2135 4y ago
I think getting rid of the deception and forcing companies to be upfront about what they're selling would be a significant improvement. Hard to get companies to change when people don't even realize the problem.
- hyperman1 4y ago
  'License' and 'EULA' basically do what you propose in the software world. They were a ploy to get more rights form 'buyers' than copyright allowed. It works so well that a lot of people think companies can't sell software without giving the right to unlimited copies, even if a book or dvd are trivial counterexamples. Basically the button 'buy' changes to license
nicholasjarnold 4y ago
Exactly this. Those of a certain age will remember the days when all media was physical media. People could purchase new, used or trade for a copy of this media. People had some amount of freedom regarding how they handle and/or distribute this media. It could be resold. A corporation could not immediately and arbitrarily decide to revoke your right to use the media or place many restrictions on _how_ you used it. While streaming media has some notable conveniences in certain cases, the downsides to the consumer seem to outweigh those benefits. It's as if there is a coordinated assault on ownership rights across many industries which is being led by the ubiquity of actually-broadband internet connectivity, the streaming technology that exists across many industries (gaming, movies, music and even general software) paired with corporation's insatiable desire for growth at all legal (even some not) costs. Because they now can, they will. As one who prefers freedom of use to maximum convenience I think it wise to purchase physical media when possible and back it up in a manner which is suitable to your long-term accessibility needs. Maybe I'm just a crabby old guy...

by izacus 4y ago

dml2135 4y ago

I think getting rid of the deception and forcing companies to be upfront about what they're selling would be a significant improvement. Hard to get companies to change when people don't even realize the problem.

hyperman1 4y ago
'License' and 'EULA' basically do what you propose in the software world. They were a ploy to get more rights form 'buyers' than copyright allowed. It works so well that a lot of people think companies can't sell software without giving the right to unlimited copies, even if a book or dvd are trivial counterexamples. Basically the button 'buy' changes to license

nicholasjarnold 4y ago

Exactly this. Those of a certain age will remember the days when all media was physical media. People could purchase new, used or trade for a copy of this media. People had some amount of freedom regarding how they handle and/or distribute this media. It could be resold. A corporation could not immediately and arbitrarily decide to revoke your right to use the media or place many restrictions on _how_ you used it. While streaming media has some notable conveniences in certain cases, the downsides to the consumer seem to outweigh those benefits. It's as if there is a coordinated assault on ownership rights across many industries which is being led by the ubiquity of actually-broadband internet connectivity, the streaming technology that exists across many industries (gaming, movies, music and even general software) paired with corporation's insatiable desire for growth at all legal (even some not) costs. Because they now can, they will. As one who prefers freedom of use to maximum convenience I think it wise to purchase physical media when possible and back it up in a manner which is suitable to your long-term accessibility needs. Maybe I'm just a crabby old guy...