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How is this guy not in jail yet? Much less out there receiving more grants?

by ciguy 4y ago

tru3_power 4y ago
What’s the backstory here? Why would he be in jail? Also the link in the original post has almost zero detail on what this grant is for.
- _-david-_ 4y ago
  He is possibly responsible for the creation of covid. He is the president of EcoHealth Alliance who was helping fund research into corona viruses and gain of function in Wuhan. He also was involved with the WHO investigation on the lab leak hypothesis despite his conflict of interest and basically denied it could have come from the lab.
  - tubalcain 4y ago
    We have investigated ourselves and found no evidence of wrongdoing.
  - uup 4y ago
    And also refused to share his research progress reports when asked to by a Covid origin committee he was a member of.
- uup 4y ago
  A lot of backstory on this guy and his organization: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/03/the-virus-hunting-nonprofit-at-the-center-of-the-lab-leak-controversy/amp https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/03/the-virus-hunting-no... TLDR is that this guy was acting as a fundraiser for research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology where they were specifically making novel coronaviruses, e.g. by creating chimeric viruses of SARS and MERS, and then using those viruses for gain of function research, e.g. by infecting humanized lung tissue in mice.
- LatteLazy 4y ago
  There is a crazy conspiracy theory that he created COVID 19. It's nonsense but people lap it up and pretend they're part of some secret club who alone know the truth.
  - hunterb123 4y ago
    Dismissing things as a "crazy conspiracy theory" adds nothing. All indicators point to a lab leak. The project was called DEFUSE, proposed in 2018, it was led by Daszak's EcoHealth Alliance and funded by the NIH. https://drasticresearch.files.wordpress.com/2021/09/main-document-preempt-volume-1-no-ess-hr00118s0017-ecohealth-alliance.pdf https://drasticresearch.files.wordpress.com/2021/09/main-doc... These things are known now, after being long denied by those involved.
    - LatteLazy 4y ago
      There is no evidence, none at all, of a lab leak. Even you admit that when you limit yourself to "indicator". And it is a conspiracy theory. You need the CCP, Trump, Biden, Facci, dozens of labs staff, and any decent virologist or geneticist to all work together to hide it. Come on, get real, stop pretending.
      - junofan 4y ago
        The guy just had his grant terminated for not turning over records. What’s your explanation for this counter-intuitive behavior?
        LatteLazy 4y ago
        When was he terminated? One of his grants was suspended when he failed to get the US federal government access to china, something that was a bit above his pay grade, but that was in 2020!? But please, tell me how that conclusively proves a lab leak? Come on. You can believe it, that's up to you. But don't pretend there is any evidence.
      - throwawaymaths 4y ago

How is this guy not in jail yet? Much less out there receiving more grants?

by ciguy 4y ago

How is this guy not in jail yet? Much less out there receiving more grants?

What’s the backstory here? Why would he be in jail? Also the link in the original post has almost zero detail on what this grant is for.

_-david-_ 4y ago
He is possibly responsible for the creation of covid. He is the president of EcoHealth Alliance who was helping fund research into corona viruses and gain of function in Wuhan. He also was involved with the WHO investigation on the lab leak hypothesis despite his conflict of interest and basically denied it could have come from the lab.
- tubalcain 4y ago
  We have investigated ourselves and found no evidence of wrongdoing.
- uup 4y ago
  And also refused to share his research progress reports when asked to by a Covid origin committee he was a member of.
uup 4y ago
A lot of backstory on this guy and his organization: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/03/the-virus-hunting-nonprofit-at-the-center-of-the-lab-leak-controversy/amp https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/03/the-virus-hunting-no... TLDR is that this guy was acting as a fundraiser for research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology where they were specifically making novel coronaviruses, e.g. by creating chimeric viruses of SARS and MERS, and then using those viruses for gain of function research, e.g. by infecting humanized lung tissue in mice.
LatteLazy 4y ago
There is a crazy conspiracy theory that he created COVID 19. It's nonsense but people lap it up and pretend they're part of some secret club who alone know the truth.
- hunterb123 4y ago
  Dismissing things as a "crazy conspiracy theory" adds nothing. All indicators point to a lab leak. The project was called DEFUSE, proposed in 2018, it was led by Daszak's EcoHealth Alliance and funded by the NIH. https://drasticresearch.files.wordpress.com/2021/09/main-document-preempt-volume-1-no-ess-hr00118s0017-ecohealth-alliance.pdf https://drasticresearch.files.wordpress.com/2021/09/main-doc... These things are known now, after being long denied by those involved.
  - LatteLazy 4y ago
    There is no evidence, none at all, of a lab leak. Even you admit that when you limit yourself to "indicator". And it is a conspiracy theory. You need the CCP, Trump, Biden, Facci, dozens of labs staff, and any decent virologist or geneticist to all work together to hide it. Come on, get real, stop pretending.
    - junofan 4y ago
      The guy just had his grant terminated for not turning over records. What’s your explanation for this counter-intuitive behavior?
      - LatteLazy 4y ago
        When was he terminated? One of his grants was suspended when he failed to get the US federal government access to china, something that was a bit above his pay grade, but that was in 2020!? But please, tell me how that conclusively proves a lab leak? Come on. You can believe it, that's up to you. But don't pretend there is any evidence.
    - throwawaymaths 4y ago