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This is not about making the best technical choice, this is about ecology and limiting waste, which frankly is a very important and urgent issue. They let the

• roenxi 4y ago
  > This is not about making the best technical choice... Thank goodness for the EU parliament, protecting their citizenry from accidentally being exposed to the best technical outcome? Wouldn't want that. If people can't confidently say that the EU is making the best technical choices then the EU shouldn't be legislating technical outcomes. And they can't say that, because this isn't going to be the best choice - the best choice is flexible and context dependent. There are going to be better options than USB-C in some use cases. Possibly many use cases as technology improves. The legislators can't see the future - if they could they'd make better decisions. I bet this doesn't have any material difference on waste. People will still lose and throw charges out at the same rate they always have. And manufacturers are going to turn out to be less efficient, the market is absolutely cut-throat at dealing with manufacturing processes that generate unnecessary waste. It won't be better than it is now, and they've locked out anyone doing a cheaper and less material-intensive charger than USB-C.
  • nolok 4y ago
    > Thank goodness for the EU parliament, protecting their citizenry from accidentally being exposed to the best technical outcome? Wouldn't want that. That is a nice way to completly miss the point and how we got there, but you do you. > I bet this doesn't have any material difference on waste. I bet it does, you're again missing the point, it's about not going back to what we had before, and what we have now made a significant different to what we had before. > the market is absolutely cut-throat at dealing with manufacturing processes that generate unnecessary waste. Ah ah ah ah. Pretty much every phone until very recently had a paid of low quality headphones that were instantly thrown out or put in a box and forgotten, and it only disapeared because jack is going away, so your own exemple doesn't work. > There are going to be better options than USB-C in some use cases. Possibly many use cases as technology improves. The legislators can't see the future - if they could they'd make better decisions. Yes, so the regulation will need to be kept up to date, just like regulations on things like food, pesticides, industrial processes, ... Still, parliament recognized the inferiority on the technical level of a system driven by regulation in this specific case and offered manufacturers to handle it themselves without involving them, but they couldn't (more specifically, apple refused). Anyway, each his point of view, these people are elected and I personnaly consider this a big issue that I'm glad to see resolved by my representatives.
    • roenxi 4y ago
      > Ah ah ah ah. Pretty much every phone until very recently had a paid of low quality headphones that were instantly thrown out or put in a box and forgotten, and it only disapeared because jack is going away, so your own exemple doesn't work. On what basis do you believe that? It probably isn't true, and nothing about this legislation will change the situation. They're still going to include headphones with the phone if they think it makes sense to. > I personnaly consider this a big issue that I'm glad to see resolved by my representatives. There is a land war in Europe right now, that triggered an energy crisis which could see governments toppled and reformed. We've already seen some pretty impressive elections in Italy and Sweden for example. I put it to you that while you might see headphone jacks as a big issue worthy of their time you're a bit out of touch and your representatives could end up getting you killed if they agree with your priorities.