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Generally, children don't have gender affirming surgery at all, as there really isn't any need. Mostly, you tend to have puberty blockers at best, something tha

by lakhim 4y ago

Generally, children don't have gender affirming surgery at all, as there really isn't any need. Mostly, you tend to have puberty blockers at best, something that's relatively benign and reversible, and from what I'm aware its not given out lightly just for shits and giggles. It's life altering, but in a good way generally. So it took me a fair bit of time to actually read what children's boston rather than just accept what you said as true, minutes of my life I won't get back. Enjoy! >>The center currently offers vaginoplasty, metoidioplasty, phalloplasty, chest reconstruction, breast augmentation, facial harmonization and other gender affirmation surgeries to eligible patients. We are guided by the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) standards and other criteria to surgically treat people who are stable in their gender identity and have documentation of persistent gender dysphoria. You do not need to be a GeMS patient to have surgery at the center. All genital surgeries are only performed on patients age 18 and older.

gadders 4y ago
Yes, they updated their website after the publicity. Glad to see you agree with the impact the account is having.
- microtherion 4y ago
  The hospital never offered surgery to "children". Chaya Raichik aka "Libs of TikTok" lied.
  - gadders 4y ago
    Depends on your definition of "children".
    - Red_Leaves_Flyy 4y ago
      A minor is under eighteen years of age. Don’t like it then petition your legislators to increase the age.
      - gadders 4y ago
        I'm glad we agree then - they were offering the treatments to 17 year olds until "Libs of Tik Tok" publicised it.
        Red_Leaves_Flyy 4y ago
        Libs of TikTok is going to get more people killed by stirring up the latent hate among transphobes. This is the same type of stunt that lead to abortion clinic bombings. Don’t spread their hate. If you got a criticism you would be wise to find a source that isn’t so despicable. https://www.them.us/story/libs-of-tik-tok-twitter-facebook-instagram-explained-childrens-hospitals-grooming/amp https://www.them.us/story/libs-of-tik-tok-twitter-facebook-i...
        gadders 4y ago
        No, she's going to get policy changed so the default treatment for troubled teens isn't life-changing, irreversible surgery.
        Red_Leaves_Flyy 4y ago
        Oh boy you’ve drank all the koolaid. That is not the default treatment, you have no idea what you’re talking about and you’re letting propagandists wind you up.
OrangeMonkey 4y ago
Regarding puberty blockers, I think the impact is a bit stronger than you have been made aware of. From Nature - affects fertility in both boys and girls treated in early adolescence: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41585-020-0372-2 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41585-020-0372-2 From Lancet - importance of informed fertility counseling for trans young people: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanchi/article/PIIS2352-4642(21)00234-0/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanchi/article/PIIS2352-4... While some may claim the resulting infertility condition that impacts young people given puberty blockers is the price worth being paid due to trans suicide rates, it is worth stating: it is not benign and it is not reversible. The treatment side effects are permanent and are life altering for most people. Imagine a person finding out at 26 that they are infertile - it is a life impacting event that causes mental anguish, divorce in some cases, and even suicide. Lets trust the science here.
- Red_Leaves_Flyy 4y ago
  - OrangeMonkey 4y ago
    I think you are arguing against something I didn't state - or maybe you replied to the wrong comment. My statement, backed by papers, is that puberty blockers given to older children and younger teens has a negative impact on fertility that needs to be known. I make literally no statement on what is worst (trans suicides are a thing, and infertility is a thing also). Its a tough place for parents to be to help their children. What does not help anyone - including yourself - is making up statements that you then get hot and yell about. If you scream about dog whistles / terfs / transphobes it has the impact of shutting down conversation. Lets be better and lets trust the science.
    - Red_Leaves_Flyy 4y ago

by lakhim 4y ago

gadders 4y ago

Yes, they updated their website after the publicity. Glad to see you agree with the impact the account is having.

microtherion 4y ago
The hospital never offered surgery to "children". Chaya Raichik aka "Libs of TikTok" lied.
- gadders 4y ago
  Depends on your definition of "children".
  - Red_Leaves_Flyy 4y ago
    A minor is under eighteen years of age. Don’t like it then petition your legislators to increase the age.
    - gadders 4y ago
      I'm glad we agree then - they were offering the treatments to 17 year olds until "Libs of Tik Tok" publicised it.
      - Red_Leaves_Flyy 4y ago
        Libs of TikTok is going to get more people killed by stirring up the latent hate among transphobes. This is the same type of stunt that lead to abortion clinic bombings. Don’t spread their hate. If you got a criticism you would be wise to find a source that isn’t so despicable. https://www.them.us/story/libs-of-tik-tok-twitter-facebook-instagram-explained-childrens-hospitals-grooming/amp https://www.them.us/story/libs-of-tik-tok-twitter-facebook-i...
        gadders 4y ago
        No, she's going to get policy changed so the default treatment for troubled teens isn't life-changing, irreversible surgery.
        Red_Leaves_Flyy 4y ago
        Oh boy you’ve drank all the koolaid. That is not the default treatment, you have no idea what you’re talking about and you’re letting propagandists wind you up.

OrangeMonkey 4y ago

Regarding puberty blockers, I think the impact is a bit stronger than you have been made aware of. From Nature - affects fertility in both boys and girls treated in early adolescence: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41585-020-0372-2 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41585-020-0372-2 From Lancet - importance of informed fertility counseling for trans young people: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanchi/article/PIIS2352-4642(21)00234-0/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanchi/article/PIIS2352-4... While some may claim the resulting infertility condition that impacts young people given puberty blockers is the price worth being paid due to trans suicide rates, it is worth stating: it is not benign and it is not reversible. The treatment side effects are permanent and are life altering for most people. Imagine a person finding out at 26 that they are infertile - it is a life impacting event that causes mental anguish, divorce in some cases, and even suicide. Lets trust the science here.

Red_Leaves_Flyy 4y ago
- OrangeMonkey 4y ago
  I think you are arguing against something I didn't state - or maybe you replied to the wrong comment. My statement, backed by papers, is that puberty blockers given to older children and younger teens has a negative impact on fertility that needs to be known. I make literally no statement on what is worst (trans suicides are a thing, and infertility is a thing also). Its a tough place for parents to be to help their children. What does not help anyone - including yourself - is making up statements that you then get hot and yell about. If you scream about dog whistles / terfs / transphobes it has the impact of shutting down conversation. Lets be better and lets trust the science.
  - Red_Leaves_Flyy 4y ago