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> Tressie McMillan Cottom recently argued in The New York Times that shaming is a corrective to a white-dominated culture: against the backdrop of a more open a
by hdjjhhvvhga 4y ago
> Tressie McMillan Cottom recently argued in The New York Times that shaming is a corrective to a white-dominated culture: against the backdrop of a more open and diverse public square, “shame is evidence of a democratic society operating democratically.”
...except that when the person being shamed is from your camp.
- neonsunset 4y agoIt is anti-democractic and bypasses justice mechanisms we worked hundreds of years to put in place. It is almost irrelevant what the group of people who experience disdain towards themselves think. Because subconsciously they are engaging in status-seeking behavior, which playing the victim card is very useful for.
- shadowgovt 4y agoSorry, I fail to see how reputational injury is anti-democratic. It is the people who decide if various attributes make a virtuous reputation. If anything, it can be more democratic than the law (with all of the unfortunate consequences that entails... The reason we bind force with rule of law and not rule of democracy directly is that we know the danger of the mob).
- neonsunset 4y agoThe issue I see with that there seems to be no middle ground. An issue is either largely unnoticed or it turns into crusade affecting everyone involved and leaving no winning move for participants in {dramaName}.
- Red_Leaves_Flyy 4y agoWelcome to the internet, that’s the price of admission. Don’t want to play? Don’t chase status and unless you’re really awful you won’t be incorrectly dragged online. If someone does something fucked to they need to be accountable for that. That takes actually putting in work and being repentant. There’s no faking that.
- marginalia_nu 4y ago> ...except that when the person being shamed is from your camp. The person being shamed is almost always from your own camp. That's the only time shaming has any effect.