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Tell me. How many different kind of chargers and connectors did you have before the EU mandated everyone should use micro-usb (or something equally standardized

Tell me. How many different kind of chargers and connectors did you have before the EU mandated everyone should use micro-usb (or something equally standardized)? And how many do you have now? Personally I had 1 charger per device I had, each with their own weird connector, and each cable sold at $20+ a pop, and definitely more if you wanted a "data-cable". These days I only have 2: USB for almost everything, and Lighting for the Apple-thingies only. With a move like this, I can be down to having only 1 type of charger and connector. It'll be great!

neilalexander 4y ago
I have no real preference whatsoever in the Lightning vs USB-C battle but it seems strange to me that the EU's approach to supposedly reducing e-waste is by condemning 10 years of Lightning accessories to becoming e-waste. An iPhone 4 charger from 2012 will still charge an iPhone 14 today. That doesn't seem incredibly wasteful to me.
- josteink 4y ago
  > An iPhone 4 charger from 2012 will still charge an iPhone 14 today And it will after this move too. You'll just need to use a regular USB-A -> USB-C cable instead of a USB-A -> Lightning cable.
  - neilalexander 4y ago
    That's an awful lot of cables globally to discard.
    - ThatPlayer 4y ago
      So what is the alternative? Should we stay on Lightning for the next 20 years? 30 years? 50 years? That'll only increase the cables globally to discard when something finally replaces Lightning At least a shared standard connector cable will still be usable with other devices. I still have devices that take mini-USB, micro USB, and USB B. Give it 10 or 15 years after iPhone switches off Lightning, and no one will even have a lightning cable anymore, because no one is interested in using a 10 year old iPhone, and no other device uses Lightning.
fbn79 4y ago
It was not mandatory. It was just a suggestion with voluntary adoption. I have nothing against standardization. I'm against the "mandatory" fact.
- Kbelicius 4y ago
  It was mandatory in the sense that EU told manufacturers that they either agree on the standard or the EU will make the choice for them. No way in hell voluntary adoption would be of the scale that it was without the EU threat.

neilalexander 4y ago

I have no real preference whatsoever in the Lightning vs USB-C battle but it seems strange to me that the EU's approach to supposedly reducing e-waste is by condemning 10 years of Lightning accessories to becoming e-waste. An iPhone 4 charger from 2012 will still charge an iPhone 14 today. That doesn't seem incredibly wasteful to me.

josteink 4y ago
> An iPhone 4 charger from 2012 will still charge an iPhone 14 today And it will after this move too. You'll just need to use a regular USB-A -> USB-C cable instead of a USB-A -> Lightning cable.
- neilalexander 4y ago
  That's an awful lot of cables globally to discard.
  - ThatPlayer 4y ago
    So what is the alternative? Should we stay on Lightning for the next 20 years? 30 years? 50 years? That'll only increase the cables globally to discard when something finally replaces Lightning At least a shared standard connector cable will still be usable with other devices. I still have devices that take mini-USB, micro USB, and USB B. Give it 10 or 15 years after iPhone switches off Lightning, and no one will even have a lightning cable anymore, because no one is interested in using a 10 year old iPhone, and no other device uses Lightning.

fbn79 4y ago

It was not mandatory. It was just a suggestion with voluntary adoption. I have nothing against standardization. I'm against the "mandatory" fact.

Kbelicius 4y ago
It was mandatory in the sense that EU told manufacturers that they either agree on the standard or the EU will make the choice for them. No way in hell voluntary adoption would be of the scale that it was without the EU threat.