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I'm European, I understand the good intentions at the root of such enforcement. But I believe such mandatory enforcements are liberticide, and against consumer
by fbn79 4y ago
I'm European, I understand the good intentions at the root of such enforcement. But I believe such mandatory enforcements are liberticide, and against consumers in the long run.
- josteink 4y agoTell me. How many different kind of chargers and connectors did you have before the EU mandated everyone should use micro-usb (or something equally standardized)? And how many do you have now? Personally I had 1 charger per device I had, each with their own weird connector, and each cable sold at $20+ a pop, and definitely more if you wanted a "data-cable". These days I only have 2: USB for almost everything, and Lighting for the Apple-thingies only. With a move like this, I can be down to having only 1 type of charger and connector. It'll be great!
- neilalexander 4y agoI have no real preference whatsoever in the Lightning vs USB-C battle but it seems strange to me that the EU's approach to supposedly reducing e-waste is by condemning 10 years of Lightning accessories to becoming e-waste. An iPhone 4 charger from 2012 will still charge an iPhone 14 today. That doesn't seem incredibly wasteful to me.
- josteink 4y ago> An iPhone 4 charger from 2012 will still charge an iPhone 14 today And it will after this move too. You'll just need to use a regular USB-A -> USB-C cable instead of a USB-A -> Lightning cable.
- neilalexander 4y agoThat's an awful lot of cables globally to discard.
- ThatPlayer 4y agoSo what is the alternative? Should we stay on Lightning for the next 20 years? 30 years? 50 years? That'll only increase the cables globally to discard when something finally replaces Lightning At least a shared standard connector cable will still be usable with other devices. I still have devices that take mini-USB, micro USB, and USB B. Give it 10 or 15 years after iPhone switches off Lightning, and no one will even have a lightning cable anymore, because no one is interested in using a 10 year old iPhone, and no other device uses Lightning.
- fbn79 4y agoIt was not mandatory. It was just a suggestion with voluntary adoption. I have nothing against standardization. I'm against the "mandatory" fact.
- Kbelicius 4y agoIt was mandatory in the sense that EU told manufacturers that they either agree on the standard or the EU will make the choice for them. No way in hell voluntary adoption would be of the scale that it was without the EU threat.
- lwheelock 4y agoI don’t understand it. Apple has only changed their connector once since 2007. Where I have untold number of USB devices that are either A, Mini, Micro, or now C.
- sbuk 4y agoI imagine that the caterwauling around the change from 32-pin to Lightning somewhat plays into their decision not to move to USB-C. Obviously the overtly cynical will put it down to purely profiteering...
- batiudrami 4y agoSince 2007 the de facto standard for other devices has only changed once too (micro to USB-C). Mini USB has been obsolete since 2007 and USB-A is the other end of the connector and not really comparable (Apple has actually since changed on their devices from type A to type C in that time). For me Lightning is just another in your list of connectors that I wish would go away and standardise to USB-C. As someone who is travelling right now, with a two port charger and two iPhones, an iPad, a laptop, a Switch, an Apple Watch and two sets of USB-C headphones between us, one connector would actually be a significant quality of life improvement (though an even better one would be hotels not killing power to the socket when I’m not in the room so I can charge my devices while I’m out!)