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> This is why it's so important to support all forms of freedom. So you agree we should stop people from having free and easy access to guns? Because I'm all

> This is why it's so important to support all forms of freedom. So you agree we should stop people from having free and easy access to guns? Because I'm all about the freedom to send my children to school without worrying they're going to get shot.

hnov 4y ago
I don’t think children get shot at school often enough for that to be a realistic worry
- Gordonjcp 4y ago
  Interesting take. So you'd say that a non-zero amount of child murders is good? Something to be maintained?
  - hellojesus 4y ago
    Restricting freedoms to make everyone free-er doesn't actually increase freedom. Your children already are covered by laws against murder. Banning guns may decrease the rate of school shootings, but it won't guarantee they cease. You'll never live in a world worry-free of gun violence, especially now that anyone can 3d print them at home.
    - Gordonjcp 4y ago
      And yet the country I live in has had exactly one school shooting, and has a fraction of the murder rate of the US per capita. You can't then say "aha but the UK has more knife crime", because again, per capita, the UK has a tiny fraction as much knife crime as the US.
      - hellojesus 4y ago
        My point still stands: society doesn't become free-er by restricting freedom.
throwaway0x7E6 4y ago
if you agree to my state seceding from the union, sure.
- Gordonjcp 4y ago
  I don't really care what your backward country does.
  - throwaway0x7E6 4y ago
    k
collegeburner 4y ago
you should be more worried about your kid walking by a busy street to and from school. people have wanted to take our guns for a long time and this is just the latest cause to hang it on. ronald reagan tried it with racism. roosevelt and company tried it with mob violence. this is just the latest excuse.
- Gordonjcp 4y ago
  So you think that murdering children in schools is acceptable?
  - collegeburner 4y ago
    no, i favor keeping murder criminalized.
    - Gordonjcp 4y ago
      Okay, so why are you in favour of letting people carry murder weapons around with them?

hnov 4y ago

I don’t think children get shot at school often enough for that to be a realistic worry

Gordonjcp 4y ago
Interesting take. So you'd say that a non-zero amount of child murders is good? Something to be maintained?
- hellojesus 4y ago
  Restricting freedoms to make everyone free-er doesn't actually increase freedom. Your children already are covered by laws against murder. Banning guns may decrease the rate of school shootings, but it won't guarantee they cease. You'll never live in a world worry-free of gun violence, especially now that anyone can 3d print them at home.
  - Gordonjcp 4y ago
    And yet the country I live in has had exactly one school shooting, and has a fraction of the murder rate of the US per capita. You can't then say "aha but the UK has more knife crime", because again, per capita, the UK has a tiny fraction as much knife crime as the US.
    - hellojesus 4y ago
      My point still stands: society doesn't become free-er by restricting freedom.

throwaway0x7E6 4y ago

if you agree to my state seceding from the union, sure.

Gordonjcp 4y ago
I don't really care what your backward country does.
- throwaway0x7E6 4y ago
  k

collegeburner 4y ago

you should be more worried about your kid walking by a busy street to and from school. people have wanted to take our guns for a long time and this is just the latest cause to hang it on. ronald reagan tried it with racism. roosevelt and company tried it with mob violence. this is just the latest excuse.

Gordonjcp 4y ago
So you think that murdering children in schools is acceptable?
- collegeburner 4y ago
  no, i favor keeping murder criminalized.
  - Gordonjcp 4y ago
    Okay, so why are you in favour of letting people carry murder weapons around with them?