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Do you realize that you’re conversing with the creator of zig, who has poured the last six years of his life into the project? All software with any amount of

Do you realize that you’re conversing with the creator of zig, who has poured the last six years of his life into the project? All software with any amount of complexity has bugs, even if there’s a published spec ratified by comittee over the course of 20 years, or whatever your unattainable standard of quality is. Zig is free software and a community in the best sense of both. Show some respect.

puffoflogic 4y ago
Bugs are fine. Arrogant devs who claim that all bugs are fixed and their software is correct and anyone who says otherwise is lying are not fine. And I do obviously know who I was interacting with; Kelley's arrogance and lies are legendary (second only to the V devs, but he appears to be consciously competing with them). It drove me away from the language when my own filed bug on this issue was met with a similar response.
- AndyKelley 4y ago
  https://ziglang.org/download/0.9.0/release-notes.html#This-Release-Contains-Bugs https://ziglang.org/download/0.9.0/release-notes.html#This-R... > Zig has known bugs and even some miscompilations. > Zig is immature. Even with Zig 0.9.0, working on a non-trivial project using Zig will likely require participating in the development process. I don't know why you have it out for me. But as long as your HN account isn't blocked by mods for trolling I'm stuck endlessly refuting your claims.
- olingern 4y ago
  You're free to your interpretation but your comments come of as being frustrated with something you've not paid for nor have any obligation to be involved with — yet you persist. If you have a language or project as complex as Zig and can provide Andrew with some sort of guidance on better implementation / OSS issue management, I would love to see this. Otherwise, I would encourage you to not post comments criticizing work which you're not qualified to criticize.

puffoflogic 4y ago

Bugs are fine. Arrogant devs who claim that all bugs are fixed and their software is correct and anyone who says otherwise is lying are not fine. And I do obviously know who I was interacting with; Kelley's arrogance and lies are legendary (second only to the V devs, but he appears to be consciously competing with them). It drove me away from the language when my own filed bug on this issue was met with a similar response.

AndyKelley 4y ago
https://ziglang.org/download/0.9.0/release-notes.html#This-Release-Contains-Bugs https://ziglang.org/download/0.9.0/release-notes.html#This-R... > Zig has known bugs and even some miscompilations. > Zig is immature. Even with Zig 0.9.0, working on a non-trivial project using Zig will likely require participating in the development process. I don't know why you have it out for me. But as long as your HN account isn't blocked by mods for trolling I'm stuck endlessly refuting your claims.
olingern 4y ago
You're free to your interpretation but your comments come of as being frustrated with something you've not paid for nor have any obligation to be involved with — yet you persist. If you have a language or project as complex as Zig and can provide Andrew with some sort of guidance on better implementation / OSS issue management, I would love to see this. Otherwise, I would encourage you to not post comments criticizing work which you're not qualified to criticize.