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Github Copilot has largely solved the “Bash weirdness problem” for me personally, frankly. it’s also made it quite a bit more enjoyable to work with.

xwowsersx 4y ago
Hah that sounds a decent way to throw together some bash scripts if, like me, you're not super fluent in bash syntax! Might actually have to give Copilot a try. Saw this vid: https://youtu.be/xqQCOigizw4 https://youtu.be/xqQCOigizw4
bobmaxup 4y ago
Sounds akin to copying code from forum posts that show up as google results.
- pmarreck 4y ago
  It's vastly superior to that. I can tell you haven't tried it.
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maegul 4y ago
So Copilot is its own topic of discussion, but in so far as it and this sentiment are relevant to this thread, I think there's a serious issue here and one particularly relevant to that of Copilot in general. At some point, I think we have to protect the ability for a human to understand and reason about a technology or a piece of software. Thus the need for better and more economic languages etc. To sweep the the difficulties of reasoning about a language under the rug of a non-human AI tool that itself isn't providing human readable information on the software or language in question seems to be, quite frankly, an egregious shortcut for short-term gains. Whatever gains and utility there are in Copilot, bugs creeping in without the developer even understanding them is exactly what many would fear would happen with it. More broadly though, training the developer to be agnostic or ignorant of the issues with the very technology they're using because Copilot is "taking care of it" surely has some negative knock-on effects in terms of developers being able to manage and improve their tech-stacks.
- cassepipe 4y ago
  Yes, Copilot sounds great for companies who want to spare dev time but bad for society. If software is eating the world and software is a copy of a flawed piece of code, then the foundation of our world may become a bit shaky. But maybe this is me not wanting to be replaced by the time, I finish studying. Maybe I am just a woodworker and github is Ikea.
  - pmarreck 4y ago
    Speaking as someone who's used copilot for months... Programmer jobs are safe. Brogrammer jobs are not. It's just a very intelligent autocomplete- your creativity and intelligence is still required.

xwowsersx 4y ago

Hah that sounds a decent way to throw together some bash scripts if, like me, you're not super fluent in bash syntax! Might actually have to give Copilot a try. Saw this vid: https://youtu.be/xqQCOigizw4 https://youtu.be/xqQCOigizw4

bobmaxup 4y ago

Sounds akin to copying code from forum posts that show up as google results.

pmarreck 4y ago
It's vastly superior to that. I can tell you haven't tried it.
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maegul 4y ago

So Copilot is its own topic of discussion, but in so far as it and this sentiment are relevant to this thread, I think there's a serious issue here and one particularly relevant to that of Copilot in general. At some point, I think we have to protect the ability for a human to understand and reason about a technology or a piece of software. Thus the need for better and more economic languages etc. To sweep the the difficulties of reasoning about a language under the rug of a non-human AI tool that itself isn't providing human readable information on the software or language in question seems to be, quite frankly, an egregious shortcut for short-term gains. Whatever gains and utility there are in Copilot, bugs creeping in without the developer even understanding them is exactly what many would fear would happen with it. More broadly though, training the developer to be agnostic or ignorant of the issues with the very technology they're using because Copilot is "taking care of it" surely has some negative knock-on effects in terms of developers being able to manage and improve their tech-stacks.

cassepipe 4y ago
Yes, Copilot sounds great for companies who want to spare dev time but bad for society. If software is eating the world and software is a copy of a flawed piece of code, then the foundation of our world may become a bit shaky. But maybe this is me not wanting to be replaced by the time, I finish studying. Maybe I am just a woodworker and github is Ikea.
- pmarreck 4y ago
  Speaking as someone who's used copilot for months... Programmer jobs are safe. Brogrammer jobs are not. It's just a very intelligent autocomplete- your creativity and intelligence is still required.