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Displaying pictures is one thing. But how are you going to create a dashboard that updates every short interval without JavaScript? Let's say a website serves

Displaying pictures is one thing. But how are you going to create a dashboard that updates every short interval without JavaScript? Let's say a website serves React from its own domain, so no 3rd party references are used (which in this case it'll be very easy for them to serve you a modified version of the framework), they'd rightfully want to save bandwidth and minimize it! Which means obfuscation as a byproduct. I understand where you're coming from and I do a fair share of blocking myself, but I also see why things are the way they are if you want to develop an online product.

autoexec 4y ago
For somethings you really can't help but depend on javascript. I don't really mind it if it's something ambitious enough, it's the display of basic content breaking that bugs me most. A dashboard may still work if you can just display the current data and add a note that because JS is disabled the page must be refreshed manually to pull updated values. You don't even have to throw in a refresh button since the browser's already got one. If I go to a website without JS enabled I expect things to take a bit more work on my part. Minified JS is a problem I run into a lot. Most of the time though, I err on the side of caution and just move on. There's so many interesting things worthy of my attention that if the site full of inscrutable javascript is just a random article/blog post or something shared as a general "hey look at this cool/fun/impressive site" it can easily be abandoned for something less troublesome. For sites I actually do need to access for some reason I can take the time to analyze it properly, but most of the time those kinds of sites are already familiar/trustworthy, and I've got other options too like firing up a less restricted browser in a VM. I certainly don't expect developers to give up using JavaScript for the sake of the few users like me, but the better a site does at keeping content accessible without it the less likely I am to just move on to the next tab.

autoexec 4y ago

For somethings you really can't help but depend on javascript. I don't really mind it if it's something ambitious enough, it's the display of basic content breaking that bugs me most. A dashboard may still work if you can just display the current data and add a note that because JS is disabled the page must be refreshed manually to pull updated values. You don't even have to throw in a refresh button since the browser's already got one. If I go to a website without JS enabled I expect things to take a bit more work on my part. Minified JS is a problem I run into a lot. Most of the time though, I err on the side of caution and just move on. There's so many interesting things worthy of my attention that if the site full of inscrutable javascript is just a random article/blog post or something shared as a general "hey look at this cool/fun/impressive site" it can easily be abandoned for something less troublesome. For sites I actually do need to access for some reason I can take the time to analyze it properly, but most of the time those kinds of sites are already familiar/trustworthy, and I've got other options too like firing up a less restricted browser in a VM. I certainly don't expect developers to give up using JavaScript for the sake of the few users like me, but the better a site does at keeping content accessible without it the less likely I am to just move on to the next tab.