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The other way to look at this is that Amazon actually reports injuries. My brother worked at a "mom & pop" carpet warehouse and they wouldn't report anything un

The other way to look at this is that Amazon actually reports injuries. My brother worked at a "mom & pop" carpet warehouse and they wouldn't report anything unless it resulted in a hospital visit i.e. broken bones, high blood loss, concussion, etc...

hemloc_io 4y ago
yeah I always found the public, but especially tech's industries interest in Amazon's warehouse conditions somewhat dubious. Where I used to live there were tons of people who worked at normal warehouses and switched over to Amazon b/c the pay was better and things were basically the same. Amazon gets tons of, at least somewhat deserved, heat for what they do, but compared to the truly horrific things done by something like the meatpacking industry? idk if the amount of shit they get is equal to the actual on the ground conditions. Working for a mom and pop manual labor gig generally sucks wayyyy more than a big corporate one. (Lower pay, shittier if any benefits, longer hours, much more nepotism, no recourse for issues etc.) EDIT: for context on the meatpacking thing. Meatpackers will illegally import immigrants, pay them much cheaper under the table and if there's an inkling of dissent get ice to round them up and deport them. e.g. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jun/29/ohio-ice-meatpacking-industry-deportations https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jun/29/ohio-ice... Also meatpacking is basically a monopoly, that the feds are trying to fight. https://missouriindependent.com/briefs/joe-biden-debuts-1-billion-meatpacking-competition-plan/#:~:text=President%20Joe%20Biden%20unveiled%20plans,sell%20to%2C%E2%80%9D%20Biden%20said https://missouriindependent.com/briefs/joe-biden-debuts-1-bi....
WesternWind 4y ago
Perhaps that's true, though I tend to think OSHA and equivalent bodies actually know what they are doing. Still even if they are the same, if more than 1 in 20 workers gets a serious injury at work at any job, I think that's an issue.
- necovek 4y ago
  I think the rate is much higher for most of professional sports. Which does not make me disagree with your take (I jokingly call all those kinesio tapes "doping" as well: they help tendons and muscles take loads they can't take naturally).

hemloc_io 4y ago

yeah I always found the public, but especially tech's industries interest in Amazon's warehouse conditions somewhat dubious. Where I used to live there were tons of people who worked at normal warehouses and switched over to Amazon b/c the pay was better and things were basically the same. Amazon gets tons of, at least somewhat deserved, heat for what they do, but compared to the truly horrific things done by something like the meatpacking industry? idk if the amount of shit they get is equal to the actual on the ground conditions. Working for a mom and pop manual labor gig generally sucks wayyyy more than a big corporate one. (Lower pay, shittier if any benefits, longer hours, much more nepotism, no recourse for issues etc.) EDIT: for context on the meatpacking thing. Meatpackers will illegally import immigrants, pay them much cheaper under the table and if there's an inkling of dissent get ice to round them up and deport them. e.g. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jun/29/ohio-ice-meatpacking-industry-deportations https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jun/29/ohio-ice... Also meatpacking is basically a monopoly, that the feds are trying to fight. https://missouriindependent.com/briefs/joe-biden-debuts-1-billion-meatpacking-competition-plan/#:~:text=President%20Joe%20Biden%20unveiled%20plans,sell%20to%2C%E2%80%9D%20Biden%20said https://missouriindependent.com/briefs/joe-biden-debuts-1-bi....

WesternWind 4y ago

Perhaps that's true, though I tend to think OSHA and equivalent bodies actually know what they are doing. Still even if they are the same, if more than 1 in 20 workers gets a serious injury at work at any job, I think that's an issue.

necovek 4y ago
I think the rate is much higher for most of professional sports. Which does not make me disagree with your take (I jokingly call all those kinesio tapes "doping" as well: they help tendons and muscles take loads they can't take naturally).