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And then suddenly the entire globe started to test everybody with a pulse for Covid, symptomatic or not. Society has never had that kind of real-time data for t

And then suddenly the entire globe started to test everybody with a pulse for Covid, symptomatic or not. Society has never had that kind of real-time data for tracking a virus. We have zero reference to compare Covid to because nothing has ever been tested quite the same. Thus there is no real way to compare the flu to Covid or even previous pandemics like Zika, SARS, etc…

logicalmonster 4y ago
> And then suddenly the entire globe started to test everybody with a pulse for Covid, This is one of the big reasons that I total distrust and reject the provided mortality statistics with Covid. Statistical comparisons have to be made in similar ways or they're worthless.
- mikeyouse 4y ago
  All cause mortality / total excess death statistics solve most of these issues and was remarkably higher during Covid... https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/dataviz8737/viz/COVID_excess_mort_withcauses_09282022/WeeklyExcessDeaths https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/dataviz8737/viz/COVID...
  - logicalmonster 4y ago
    I don't think Covid killed literally 0 people. But there's more than 1 reasonable explanation for at least some of these excess deaths, including looking at the Covid countermeasures themselves. Suicides and other deaths of despair? People who couldn't get their required cancer and other treatments? What about the attempted medical treatments for Covid? We're not going to agree on this, I imagine, but there's a lot more to be looked at.
    - mikeyouse 4y ago
      Sure, but when the excess death charts match up extremely well with study after study from epidemiologists where they were assessing covid deaths, it becomes pretty likely that we actually did pretty well counting covid deaths at the time and it was just as bad as scientists were saying during the pandemic. There could have also been an increase in the so called deaths of despair during this time, but we also measure those very reliably so they're easy to parse out.
ClumsyPilot 4y ago
it is possible previous viruses killed many more people than we think they did. Youve got to start tracking at some point, covid was that point

logicalmonster 4y ago

> And then suddenly the entire globe started to test everybody with a pulse for Covid, This is one of the big reasons that I total distrust and reject the provided mortality statistics with Covid. Statistical comparisons have to be made in similar ways or they're worthless.

mikeyouse 4y ago
All cause mortality / total excess death statistics solve most of these issues and was remarkably higher during Covid... https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/dataviz8737/viz/COVID_excess_mort_withcauses_09282022/WeeklyExcessDeaths https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/dataviz8737/viz/COVID...
- logicalmonster 4y ago
  I don't think Covid killed literally 0 people. But there's more than 1 reasonable explanation for at least some of these excess deaths, including looking at the Covid countermeasures themselves. Suicides and other deaths of despair? People who couldn't get their required cancer and other treatments? What about the attempted medical treatments for Covid? We're not going to agree on this, I imagine, but there's a lot more to be looked at.
  - mikeyouse 4y ago
    Sure, but when the excess death charts match up extremely well with study after study from epidemiologists where they were assessing covid deaths, it becomes pretty likely that we actually did pretty well counting covid deaths at the time and it was just as bad as scientists were saying during the pandemic. There could have also been an increase in the so called deaths of despair during this time, but we also measure those very reliably so they're easy to parse out.

ClumsyPilot 4y ago

it is possible previous viruses killed many more people than we think they did. Youve got to start tracking at some point, covid was that point