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This person seems like they are suffering from typical tech bubble non-awareness disease. They always strive to make the world a better place as… a director of

This person seems like they are suffering from typical tech bubble non-awareness disease. They always strive to make the world a better place as… a director of Facebook. Debatable. Early retirement is such a nightmare for me that.. I became an Amazon Warehouse Associate out of boredom? I’m not sure how any of this narcissism is making the world a better place.

carlosdp 4y ago
Did you actually read the article? He's probably the one person in tech that is directly aware of what it's like to work at a warehouse because he actually did it for real. He's not claiming to be "making the world a better place" by working at Facebook. He's telling the story of how he got burned out from that world and sought out a real "honest labor" job that he'd heard a ton about in the media to snap out of it and get real. What more could someone possibly do to wave off the label of "tech bubble non-awareness disease," in your opinion?
- spacemadness 4y ago
  “For me, a lot of my meaning comes from two things. One is doing something in the world that feels like it's actually making things a little better somehow. And so contributing to society in some meaningful way.” Yes, I read the article.
  - LtWorf 4y ago
    I loved the "silicon valley" show, where every single shitty startup was saying that they'd make the world a better place.
  - ckemere 4y ago
    To be fair, his most recent job after Microsoft and FB was a Gates- foundation funded startup building tools for healthcare in underdeveloped contexts. I think that might be what the phrase refers to?
- et-al 4y ago
  > He's probably the one person in tech that is directly aware of what it's like to work at a warehouse because he actually did it for real. There are plenty of people in tech who didn't have the traditional four years of uni -> FAANG route. They just don't blog about it.
  - bobthepanda 4y ago
    Also, people who worked through college.
- themitigating 4y ago
  " He's probably the one person in tech that is directly aware of what it's like to work at a warehouse because he actually did it for real." I work in tech but previously did overnight stock at Walmart so I guess that's two people. What's the point of using this kind of hyperbole in your comment unless you wanted to make others hate people in tech?
- SketchySeaBeast 4y ago
  > What more could someone possibly do to wave off the label of "tech bubble non-awareness disease," in your opinion? Going from rich to working in a warehouse until you feel like leaving is not the same experience as working a warehouse because you feel like eating.
- Bakary 4y ago
  He learned what a grueling job was for a few weeks. He did not learn what it means when that grueling job is your past, present, and/or future. The part about the takeout food seals that impression
avgDev 4y ago
This is what I felt but could not put it into words. Non-awareness disease is the PERFECT word to describe what I felt reading this.
yuliyp 4y ago
How dare he find meaning in things that are different from you. Congratulations on figuring out how to find fulfillment and a balanced life before the rest of us. Philip's journey toward that is clearly different from yours.
- hkon 4y ago
  There is a difference between enduring hardships because you want to for fun, and enduring it because you must to earn money. It reads like a slap in the face
  - A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
    Something about what you said triggered a memory in me. I remember a story about how westerners embraced meditation and how monks described how they ( westerners allowed into the monastery ) completely missed its point by enjoying staring into sand, when it was in theory supposed to induce boredom. I will admit that I am not sure how I feel about the article. I might be still processing it.
- spacemadness 4y ago
  Yes, Philip’s journey was an extremely privileged one apparently and required a blog post or it didn’t happen.
  - Aperocky 4y ago
    I appreciate him sharing his experiences, and I've only known about it because he blogged about it. It rings true to some of my friend and is potentially very useful to people in the same situation. Brain chemistry doesn't care about rich or poor, and unprivileged here in the US could be extremely privileged in other parts of the world. Engaging in a race to the bottom is of no use to anyone and solves nothing.
- margalabargala 4y ago
  He describes exactly what things he finds meaning in: > For me, a lot of my meaning comes from two things. One is doing something in the world that feels like it's actually making things a little better somehow. And so contributing to society in some meaningful way. The parent is commenting on how Philip's previous (and new!) work positions apparently fulfilled those criteria in no small way, in Philip's view. They are noting that it is striking that this is the case, as from the perspective of an outsider looking in, it does not appear that a director at facebook, nor an amazon warehouse worker, fulfills the stated criteria.
CoffeeOnWrite 4y ago
Yep, the guy never reflects on his privilege not needing this job. Bad on the blogger too for not prompting them on this - it could have been an interesting article..
- jasonshen 4y ago
  I would encourage you to listen to the podcast, because he definitely does reflect on this, but it wasn’t the focus of my interview, because this was focused on ways in which burned out tech workers try to find meaning in their life, not an analysis of low paid jobs.
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jbm 4y ago
He's a stranger sharing his experience, people obviously found it to be interesting. Re-contextualizing into a class struggle style comment, just because he shared his experience, is not very interesting. All blogging is narcissism if you redefine narcissism to be the most bland shade of the word's meaning.
quickthrower2 4y ago
> strive to make the world a better place Are you sure that is the motive?
gamblor956 4y ago
Yes, the entire thing was cringe. But it's not just a tech bubble thing; it's more of a 6-figure yuppie thing. I knew a doctor making $500k/year in L.A. who insisted on taking vacations in disaster zones, etc., as a tourist (not with Doctors w/o Borders) so he could "experience human suffering" and "become empathetic" to his fellow men through their "shared suffering" of being in the same approximate location as people who were starving or seriously wounded. He doesn't actually do anything with this "increased empathy." He just feels like it makes his EQ super high or something silly like that.

carlosdp 4y ago

Did you actually read the article? He's probably the one person in tech that is directly aware of what it's like to work at a warehouse because he actually did it for real. He's not claiming to be "making the world a better place" by working at Facebook. He's telling the story of how he got burned out from that world and sought out a real "honest labor" job that he'd heard a ton about in the media to snap out of it and get real. What more could someone possibly do to wave off the label of "tech bubble non-awareness disease," in your opinion?

spacemadness 4y ago
“For me, a lot of my meaning comes from two things. One is doing something in the world that feels like it's actually making things a little better somehow. And so contributing to society in some meaningful way.” Yes, I read the article.
- LtWorf 4y ago
  I loved the "silicon valley" show, where every single shitty startup was saying that they'd make the world a better place.
- ckemere 4y ago
  To be fair, his most recent job after Microsoft and FB was a Gates- foundation funded startup building tools for healthcare in underdeveloped contexts. I think that might be what the phrase refers to?
et-al 4y ago
> He's probably the one person in tech that is directly aware of what it's like to work at a warehouse because he actually did it for real. There are plenty of people in tech who didn't have the traditional four years of uni -> FAANG route. They just don't blog about it.
- bobthepanda 4y ago
  Also, people who worked through college.
themitigating 4y ago
" He's probably the one person in tech that is directly aware of what it's like to work at a warehouse because he actually did it for real." I work in tech but previously did overnight stock at Walmart so I guess that's two people. What's the point of using this kind of hyperbole in your comment unless you wanted to make others hate people in tech?
SketchySeaBeast 4y ago
> What more could someone possibly do to wave off the label of "tech bubble non-awareness disease," in your opinion? Going from rich to working in a warehouse until you feel like leaving is not the same experience as working a warehouse because you feel like eating.
Bakary 4y ago
He learned what a grueling job was for a few weeks. He did not learn what it means when that grueling job is your past, present, and/or future. The part about the takeout food seals that impression

avgDev 4y ago

This is what I felt but could not put it into words. Non-awareness disease is the PERFECT word to describe what I felt reading this.

yuliyp 4y ago

How dare he find meaning in things that are different from you. Congratulations on figuring out how to find fulfillment and a balanced life before the rest of us. Philip's journey toward that is clearly different from yours.

hkon 4y ago
There is a difference between enduring hardships because you want to for fun, and enduring it because you must to earn money. It reads like a slap in the face
- A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
  Something about what you said triggered a memory in me. I remember a story about how westerners embraced meditation and how monks described how they ( westerners allowed into the monastery ) completely missed its point by enjoying staring into sand, when it was in theory supposed to induce boredom. I will admit that I am not sure how I feel about the article. I might be still processing it.
spacemadness 4y ago
Yes, Philip’s journey was an extremely privileged one apparently and required a blog post or it didn’t happen.
- Aperocky 4y ago
  I appreciate him sharing his experiences, and I've only known about it because he blogged about it. It rings true to some of my friend and is potentially very useful to people in the same situation. Brain chemistry doesn't care about rich or poor, and unprivileged here in the US could be extremely privileged in other parts of the world. Engaging in a race to the bottom is of no use to anyone and solves nothing.
margalabargala 4y ago
He describes exactly what things he finds meaning in: > For me, a lot of my meaning comes from two things. One is doing something in the world that feels like it's actually making things a little better somehow. And so contributing to society in some meaningful way. The parent is commenting on how Philip's previous (and new!) work positions apparently fulfilled those criteria in no small way, in Philip's view. They are noting that it is striking that this is the case, as from the perspective of an outsider looking in, it does not appear that a director at facebook, nor an amazon warehouse worker, fulfills the stated criteria.

CoffeeOnWrite 4y ago

Yep, the guy never reflects on his privilege not needing this job. Bad on the blogger too for not prompting them on this - it could have been an interesting article..

jasonshen 4y ago
I would encourage you to listen to the podcast, because he definitely does reflect on this, but it wasn’t the focus of my interview, because this was focused on ways in which burned out tech workers try to find meaning in their life, not an analysis of low paid jobs.
- deleted 4y ago
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jbm 4y ago

He's a stranger sharing his experience, people obviously found it to be interesting. Re-contextualizing into a class struggle style comment, just because he shared his experience, is not very interesting. All blogging is narcissism if you redefine narcissism to be the most bland shade of the word's meaning.

quickthrower2 4y ago

> strive to make the world a better place Are you sure that is the motive?

gamblor956 4y ago

Yes, the entire thing was cringe. But it's not just a tech bubble thing; it's more of a 6-figure yuppie thing. I knew a doctor making $500k/year in L.A. who insisted on taking vacations in disaster zones, etc., as a tourist (not with Doctors w/o Borders) so he could "experience human suffering" and "become empathetic" to his fellow men through their "shared suffering" of being in the same approximate location as people who were starving or seriously wounded. He doesn't actually do anything with this "increased empathy." He just feels like it makes his EQ super high or something silly like that.