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Its difficult to find countries with so liberal abortion laws as in America. As an European it amazes me that so many people think abortion at late stages is "B

Its difficult to find countries with so liberal abortion laws as in America. As an European it amazes me that so many people think abortion at late stages is "Business as usual".

ssully 4y ago
I’ve never encountered someone who is pro-abortion that believes a late stage abortion is “business as usual”. It’s usually considered a tragedy because rarely does a mother get that late in a pregnancy and want an abortion. They get them because something terrible has gone wrong.
watwut 4y ago
I mean, this is a lie. Both in terms of late stage abortion being "business as usual" in USA and in terms of late stage abortion not being done in Europe. Laws vary between countries, but basically Poland is not Europe. Generally you can get late stage abortion for variety for health issues (abd even social ones). Also, you won't be denied prescribed medicine you need for pregnancy unrelated condition just because you are woman and it might also end pregnancy. Also, there is no ban on talking about abortion.
- Dma54rhs 4y ago
  It's safe to say its 12 weeks in America, your conservatives lately proposed 15 weeks that is more generous than the average if EU.
- xupybd 4y ago
  >Generally you can get late stage abortion for variety for health issues Isn't this true in even the most extremely anti abortion states of the US?
  - macintux 4y ago
    Indiana just outlawed all abortion after 20 weeks post-fertilization, even if it would kill the mother.
    - xupybd 4y ago
      Is that different to this law? https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/09/22/indiana-abortion-ban/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/09/22/indiana-abo... As that says "with narrow exceptions for victims of rape or incest, to save the life of the pregnant person and in cases where the fetus is diagnosed with a lethal anomaly. That law took effect on Sept. 15."
      - macintux 4y ago
        Those exceptions only apply up to 20 weeks. Without the exceptions, abortion is entirely illegal.
  - watwut 4y ago
    No it is not. The doctors currently wait until there is acute danger for mother. Also, 11 years old had to travel for abortion, because merely high risk of death or sever long term health damage was not enough of health threat.
    - xupybd 4y ago
      https://www.politifact.com/article/2022/jul/21/could-10-year-old-rape-victim-have-gotten-abortion/ https://www.politifact.com/article/2022/jul/21/could-10-year... There is doubt that she had to travel out of state.

Its difficult to find countries with so liberal abortion laws as in America. As an European it amazes me that so many people think abortion at late stages is "Business as usual".

ssully 4y ago

I’ve never encountered someone who is pro-abortion that believes a late stage abortion is “business as usual”. It’s usually considered a tragedy because rarely does a mother get that late in a pregnancy and want an abortion. They get them because something terrible has gone wrong.

watwut 4y ago

I mean, this is a lie. Both in terms of late stage abortion being "business as usual" in USA and in terms of late stage abortion not being done in Europe. Laws vary between countries, but basically Poland is not Europe. Generally you can get late stage abortion for variety for health issues (abd even social ones). Also, you won't be denied prescribed medicine you need for pregnancy unrelated condition just because you are woman and it might also end pregnancy. Also, there is no ban on talking about abortion.

Dma54rhs 4y ago
It's safe to say its 12 weeks in America, your conservatives lately proposed 15 weeks that is more generous than the average if EU.
xupybd 4y ago
>Generally you can get late stage abortion for variety for health issues Isn't this true in even the most extremely anti abortion states of the US?
- macintux 4y ago
  Indiana just outlawed all abortion after 20 weeks post-fertilization, even if it would kill the mother.
  - xupybd 4y ago
    Is that different to this law? https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/09/22/indiana-abortion-ban/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/09/22/indiana-abo... As that says "with narrow exceptions for victims of rape or incest, to save the life of the pregnant person and in cases where the fetus is diagnosed with a lethal anomaly. That law took effect on Sept. 15."
    - macintux 4y ago
      Those exceptions only apply up to 20 weeks. Without the exceptions, abortion is entirely illegal.
- watwut 4y ago
  No it is not. The doctors currently wait until there is acute danger for mother. Also, 11 years old had to travel for abortion, because merely high risk of death or sever long term health damage was not enough of health threat.
  - xupybd 4y ago
    https://www.politifact.com/article/2022/jul/21/could-10-year-old-rape-victim-have-gotten-abortion/ https://www.politifact.com/article/2022/jul/21/could-10-year... There is doubt that she had to travel out of state.