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Poor is relative. Free education including university for all kids you can possibly spawn, free good healthcare just to name 2 most of the most expensive pain p

Poor is relative. Free education including university for all kids you can possibly spawn, free good healthcare just to name 2 most of the most expensive pain points in existence as american citizen. Your taxes very often directly support killing poor civilians half around the globe, as it has been much of the last 2 decades, for less than 0 added value to anything positive to mankind. Supporting Ukraine is nice and thank you for that, but I am under no illusion US is not waging just another proxy war with its arch nemesis and benefiting greatly long term, no altruism there. If you get fired, how much support do you get from the state? Can you keep that mortgage till you find next job? If you would travel to those places, you would find stark differences in real quality of life which can't be easily measured by simple aggregate numbers, people's happiness and life satisfaction.

csdvrx 4y ago
> If you get fired, how much support do you get from the state? A better question is, why should the state support people getting fired? > If you would travel to those places, you would find stark differences in real quality of life which can't be easily measured by simple aggregate numbers, people's happiness and life satisfaction. I did: oh yeah it's nice, as a tourist. But here is no amount of money you could pay me to work and live there - and that's assuming the money would make sense on the paper, unlikely given the high taxes while the prices are also high. The killing factor is the very small amount of private options if you want to avoid dysfunctioning government monopolies.
- saiya-jin 4y ago
  > oh yeah it's nice, as a tourist See, you admit it yourself - you went as a tourist. Thus you have clue how people actually live, how happy they are etc. Europe is cca 30 very different and diverse states and you clearly saw tiny fraction since what you state is simply not true in quite a few. For my case point - I've lived in US, LA and Maine. While I loved common folks for their openness, the system is utterly fucked up for me and I would never want to live and raise my kids there, regardless of paycheck (which as I stated is useless measure since its not what you save if you actually live and manage to get old). Also - high criminality, police state and messed up jail system, workoholism attitude, effective class system based on career/income/wealth. And so on. Since you don't react to that use of your tax money to wage wars and killing of hundreds of thousands of innocents I guess you don't care about that at all.

csdvrx 4y ago

> If you get fired, how much support do you get from the state? A better question is, why should the state support people getting fired? > If you would travel to those places, you would find stark differences in real quality of life which can't be easily measured by simple aggregate numbers, people's happiness and life satisfaction. I did: oh yeah it's nice, as a tourist. But here is no amount of money you could pay me to work and live there - and that's assuming the money would make sense on the paper, unlikely given the high taxes while the prices are also high. The killing factor is the very small amount of private options if you want to avoid dysfunctioning government monopolies.

saiya-jin 4y ago
> oh yeah it's nice, as a tourist See, you admit it yourself - you went as a tourist. Thus you have clue how people actually live, how happy they are etc. Europe is cca 30 very different and diverse states and you clearly saw tiny fraction since what you state is simply not true in quite a few. For my case point - I've lived in US, LA and Maine. While I loved common folks for their openness, the system is utterly fucked up for me and I would never want to live and raise my kids there, regardless of paycheck (which as I stated is useless measure since its not what you save if you actually live and manage to get old). Also - high criminality, police state and messed up jail system, workoholism attitude, effective class system based on career/income/wealth. And so on. Since you don't react to that use of your tax money to wage wars and killing of hundreds of thousands of innocents I guess you don't care about that at all.