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> The one working at Apple was able to check their spouse's spending trend on App store You obviously could back this hearsay up with actual evidence I assume?

Quarrel 4y ago
"Sure, here's the screenshots I took of my wife violating her NDA, while handing them to me to post to HN." Like, sure it is hearsay, but what do you want from the guy? Most of us are sharing anecdotes that we hope we be helpful to other HNers, most of the time. If anything, I think a lot of people look to the experience of other users here as the advantage.
- CharlesW 4y ago
  "Sure it's complete hearsay, but it plays well with HN readers so…"
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  - viridian 4y ago
    Most points of plot are hearsay, and Hacker News isn't a court of law. If I tell you that while working at unnamed multi-national finance company we wrote software used for what I would consider incredibly immoral, but not illegal (in the US) purposes, I don't have any right to be believed, but I also expect most people would believe me, because they know how these things go in real life, oftentimes in their own organizations.
    - CharlesW 4y ago
      The difference between "a friend who worked at Apple said he could see his spouse's purchases" and "I worked at a company which wrote software used for immoral purposes" is that one is hearsay and one is not.
      - howinteresting 4y ago
        Do you want the friend to show up on news dot ycombinator dot com? What entitles this forum to that? HN isn't a court of law.
      - oliveshell 4y ago
        One is hearsay to the speaker. Unless proof is provided, they’re both hearsay all the same to the receiving audience.
summerlight 4y ago
How could they? They obviously don't want to face C-suite level retaliation who can make their life miserable over the next 10 years.
gerash 4y ago
This was a few years ago and I actually don’t want to get anyone in trouble
- novok 4y ago
  IMO this is just an indicator of a bunch of incomplete policies, usually something you see in smaller immature companies. I would think apple would've tightened that up by now, not being allowed to look up info for people you know or personal things is usually explicitly against the rules and can get you fired at most places! The only time these rules might be able to be 'broken' is to get data to fix bugs with the person's consent.

Quarrel 4y ago

"Sure, here's the screenshots I took of my wife violating her NDA, while handing them to me to post to HN." Like, sure it is hearsay, but what do you want from the guy? Most of us are sharing anecdotes that we hope we be helpful to other HNers, most of the time. If anything, I think a lot of people look to the experience of other users here as the advantage.

CharlesW 4y ago
"Sure it's complete hearsay, but it plays well with HN readers so…"
- deleted 4y ago
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- viridian 4y ago
  Most points of plot are hearsay, and Hacker News isn't a court of law. If I tell you that while working at unnamed multi-national finance company we wrote software used for what I would consider incredibly immoral, but not illegal (in the US) purposes, I don't have any right to be believed, but I also expect most people would believe me, because they know how these things go in real life, oftentimes in their own organizations.
  - CharlesW 4y ago
    The difference between "a friend who worked at Apple said he could see his spouse's purchases" and "I worked at a company which wrote software used for immoral purposes" is that one is hearsay and one is not.
    - howinteresting 4y ago
      Do you want the friend to show up on news dot ycombinator dot com? What entitles this forum to that? HN isn't a court of law.
    - oliveshell 4y ago
      One is hearsay to the speaker. Unless proof is provided, they’re both hearsay all the same to the receiving audience.

summerlight 4y ago

How could they? They obviously don't want to face C-suite level retaliation who can make their life miserable over the next 10 years.

gerash 4y ago

This was a few years ago and I actually don’t want to get anyone in trouble

novok 4y ago
IMO this is just an indicator of a bunch of incomplete policies, usually something you see in smaller immature companies. I would think apple would've tightened that up by now, not being allowed to look up info for people you know or personal things is usually explicitly against the rules and can get you fired at most places! The only time these rules might be able to be 'broken' is to get data to fix bugs with the person's consent.