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Haven't read the article (can't be bothered to work around the paywall), but the fentanyl scare is driven in large part by "copaganda". Cops treat fentanyl like

Haven't read the article (can't be bothered to work around the paywall), but the fentanyl scare is driven in large part by "copaganda". Cops treat fentanyl like some sort of boogeyman (to the point that they have panic attacks when they think they might have had fentanyl somewhere in their presence, get "revived" with narcan, and further perpetuate the myth that fentanyl is some mythical thing that can kill you just by looking at). This isn't to say that fentanyl (and opiates in general) isn't a huge problem in the US (I couldn't possibly count the number of legit narcan wakeups I've done over the years), but fentanyl in particular is really prone to exaggerated claims by law enforcement that don't pass the sniff (or snort?) test.

boringg 4y ago
I don't know - fentanyl has done some serious damage to the population. I would probably disagree with what you are saying and how you are dismissive/minimizing its damage.
- bigyikes 4y ago
  The person you’re replying to is a paramedic who claims to have actively stopped people from overdosing. I think they have a pretty good idea of how damaging it can be.
- dtjb 4y ago
  They fully acknowledged the danger to the general public. That can be true while also acknowledging the hysteria [1] present in many law enforcement agencies. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/magazine/police-fentanyl-exposure-videos.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/magazine/police-fentanyl-...
  - boringg 4y ago
    Fair hysteria isn't helpful. That said there's been a lot of fentanyl deaths and it ain't making any communities better off having it. It's cheap, easy to get and the cartels can easily justify losing people to selling large batches. Only way they can stop the cartels continue to get more of a foothold is by decreasing demand of the product. Not saying their approach is a good approach but I understand why they would try it.
- jccalhoun 4y ago
  There are videos of police officers falling to the ground and claiming it was because they said they TOUCHED something laced with fentanyl. As far as I have read that isn't possible.
  - meandave 4y ago
    Here is a video of me touching fentanyl and not getting high or collapsing https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaDE8XblaKy/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaDE8XblaKy/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y...
  - boringg 4y ago
    Have a heard time believing this statement.
    - JshWright 4y ago
      Believing which statement?
pGuitar 4y ago
Lethal dose of fentanyl VS heroin VS carfentanyl: https://www.scripps.edu/news-and-events/press-room/2021/20210203-janda-carfentanil.html https://www.scripps.edu/news-and-events/press-room/2021/2021... You need a very precise scale to measure those quantities...
pessimizer 4y ago
It was wonderful that we had the crying, puking, fainting fentanyl cops during the time that Havana Syndrome was being pushed. When you accused Havana Syndrome sufferers of mass hysteria, Authorities would start explaining to you like you were a child how very important and very professional the sufferers are, and how it's just like not believing women when you don't believe that they were brain damaged by secret, very quiet, commie sound ray guns. You could reply with a video of a fentanyl cop.

boringg 4y ago

I don't know - fentanyl has done some serious damage to the population. I would probably disagree with what you are saying and how you are dismissive/minimizing its damage.

bigyikes 4y ago
The person you’re replying to is a paramedic who claims to have actively stopped people from overdosing. I think they have a pretty good idea of how damaging it can be.
dtjb 4y ago
They fully acknowledged the danger to the general public. That can be true while also acknowledging the hysteria [1] present in many law enforcement agencies. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/magazine/police-fentanyl-exposure-videos.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/magazine/police-fentanyl-...
- boringg 4y ago
  Fair hysteria isn't helpful. That said there's been a lot of fentanyl deaths and it ain't making any communities better off having it. It's cheap, easy to get and the cartels can easily justify losing people to selling large batches. Only way they can stop the cartels continue to get more of a foothold is by decreasing demand of the product. Not saying their approach is a good approach but I understand why they would try it.
jccalhoun 4y ago
There are videos of police officers falling to the ground and claiming it was because they said they TOUCHED something laced with fentanyl. As far as I have read that isn't possible.
- meandave 4y ago
  Here is a video of me touching fentanyl and not getting high or collapsing https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaDE8XblaKy/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= https://www.instagram.com/tv/CaDE8XblaKy/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y...
- boringg 4y ago
  Have a heard time believing this statement.
  - JshWright 4y ago
    Believing which statement?

pGuitar 4y ago

Lethal dose of fentanyl VS heroin VS carfentanyl: https://www.scripps.edu/news-and-events/press-room/2021/20210203-janda-carfentanil.html https://www.scripps.edu/news-and-events/press-room/2021/2021... You need a very precise scale to measure those quantities...

pessimizer 4y ago

It was wonderful that we had the crying, puking, fainting fentanyl cops during the time that Havana Syndrome was being pushed. When you accused Havana Syndrome sufferers of mass hysteria, Authorities would start explaining to you like you were a child how very important and very professional the sufferers are, and how it's just like not believing women when you don't believe that they were brain damaged by secret, very quiet, commie sound ray guns. You could reply with a video of a fentanyl cop.