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> failing) at getting Filipinos interested in software engineering and programming, especially women Don't get people interested, find people that are interest
by tomxor 4y ago
> failing) at getting Filipinos interested in software engineering and programming, especially women
Don't get people interested, find people that are interested and lack the resources and opportunity - then help those people. There may also be a lack of interest due to cultural relevance, tech that looks cool and interesting to the west might not in SE Asia, finding local help could improve this.
You mentioned women - If you are concerned about countering artificial biases in tech, ensure fair opportunity, but you cannot expect to force people to be interested. There may be inherent statistical differences in the interest and values of technology as a career between cultures and between genders just as there are with other subject that bias in either direction. The goal should be to counter unfair, artificial biases that result from prejudice, including your own... this is an unpopular opinion, but reality is more complex than SJWs like to think, there are multiple causes for the proportions of minorities in a particular area, and this needs to be understood in order to help people effectively do what they want - in short fighting bias with bias can be harmful.
- knicholes 4y agoJames Damore was punished for this line of thinking.
- tomxor 4y agoPolicies of inclusivity are currently governed by the perception of the mob. Trying to apply thoughtful thinking in this area publicly is dangerous (presuming that's what he did) because it's falsely evaluated as a dichotomy between either discriminating positively or discriminating negatively... conflating all other complex sources of minority proportions, not bothering to understand the source of these differences, and ignoring the potential negative consequences of positive discrimination to the very people they intend to help - the general reaction to this criticism in my experience is that these details are insignificant, whereas I suspect the true reason is that they are uncomfortable to explore. It's incredibly difficult to broach this subject with anyone publicly in a rational way, let alone widely because the mob has already made up it's mind that if you are not in camp A, then you are evil, since the only alternative in their eyes is camp B. If you can also see the potential harm it can cause, the best you can do is plant seeds with others, and focus on being unbiased yourself, if you want to go deeper then you could even try to explore the sources of the differences (privately) and then enact some informed change - but committing career suicide helps no one. [edit] This is probably the most public I've been with this subject and I already feel uncomfortable.
- orangepurple 4y agoBeing punished for being realistic publically is an occupational hazard
- nkingsy 4y agoI forget the details of the memo, but reading Wikipedia, this criticism resonated with my memory: “It mischaracterizes some sex differences as universal” My sister is also on the spectrum like James has said he is. One of her struggles is ironically in understanding spectra in other areas like gender differences.
- ackfoobar 4y agoIt's been some time since I last read the memo. I think that criticism mischaracterizes his position? Noting the differences in averages and more broadly the distribution is far from saying the differences are universal.