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I've seen people work in tech working on more efficient renewable energy, improving crop harvesting, improving safety on the road... All while having a happy te

I've seen people work in tech working on more efficient renewable energy, improving crop harvesting, improving safety on the road... All while having a happy team of well-organized people. Not every job is bullshit and not every way of working is bullshit IMO.

giantg2 4y ago
The job doesn't have to be bullshit. But basically every job has bullshit. If there's a job that's truly bullshit free, sign me up.
- josalhor 4y ago
  Fair enough. But just like every job has bullshit, every part of life has some level of bullshit. I don't think in terms of "eliminating" bullshit, but rather minimizing it.
- int0x2e 4y ago
  A former boss taught me of the "law of conservation of bullshit" :-)
- Bakary 4y ago
  You won't find a job that's 100% free of it. But everyone intuitively knows which ones are in the 90 to 99% range. Emergency responders, garbage collectors, transporters, powerplant employees, nurses... basically any job that's actually essential and not just something that grows another person's fortune. Once these people stop working, you notice. So would you sign up for these jobs? Probably not, because they often require a lot of work or not much money (very region dependent) or something hard to deal with. In comparison, you can be paid insane amounts to code skinner boxes or ad optimisation in a well-lit office.
entropicgravity 4y ago
One man's bullshit is another woman's compelling, rewarding effort. I imagine Musk deals with plenty of bullshit in order to keep his organizations focused on the compelling goals he feels are essential. Ramping the model 3 or getting the original falcon into orbit for the first time come to mind.
- Bakary 4y ago
  Musk is a good example because he does many non-bullshit, but also his fair share of bullshit things. Even if we drop the semi-religious way people speak of him, or even view him in the most uncharitable light, he has a ton of awe-inducing projects going on. At the same time, he seems to spend a lot of time getting embroiled in the most inane nonsense, to say nothing of his social media activity.

giantg2 4y ago

The job doesn't have to be bullshit. But basically every job has bullshit. If there's a job that's truly bullshit free, sign me up.

josalhor 4y ago
Fair enough. But just like every job has bullshit, every part of life has some level of bullshit. I don't think in terms of "eliminating" bullshit, but rather minimizing it.
int0x2e 4y ago
A former boss taught me of the "law of conservation of bullshit" :-)
Bakary 4y ago
You won't find a job that's 100% free of it. But everyone intuitively knows which ones are in the 90 to 99% range. Emergency responders, garbage collectors, transporters, powerplant employees, nurses... basically any job that's actually essential and not just something that grows another person's fortune. Once these people stop working, you notice. So would you sign up for these jobs? Probably not, because they often require a lot of work or not much money (very region dependent) or something hard to deal with. In comparison, you can be paid insane amounts to code skinner boxes or ad optimisation in a well-lit office.

entropicgravity 4y ago

One man's bullshit is another woman's compelling, rewarding effort. I imagine Musk deals with plenty of bullshit in order to keep his organizations focused on the compelling goals he feels are essential. Ramping the model 3 or getting the original falcon into orbit for the first time come to mind.

Bakary 4y ago
Musk is a good example because he does many non-bullshit, but also his fair share of bullshit things. Even if we drop the semi-religious way people speak of him, or even view him in the most uncharitable light, he has a ton of awe-inducing projects going on. At the same time, he seems to spend a lot of time getting embroiled in the most inane nonsense, to say nothing of his social media activity.