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If this happens, it will be minutes before the media covers it, so any media subscription will probably do. As a matter of fact, it's likely the attack would b

If this happens, it will be minutes before the media covers it, so any media subscription will probably do. As a matter of fact, it's likely the attack would be pre-announced too. So maybe move even closer to Ukraine and listen carefully.

sylware 4y ago
The threat of nukes was already done by putin. I don't know how many more warnings he will be willing to give, but if putin's regime wants to "wipe clean" a front line, I don't think they will give the ukrainian army time to move away.
- necovek 4y ago
  Nukes without a threat of using them are not much value: he's probably trying to reduce and limit involvement of other nations. "Wiping clean" kilometers of "a front line" (which is relatively "thin") would involve so many nukes and would involve so many non-army causalties that it doesn't make sense to use them for the purpose. Nukes have a circular effective area, so you want to use them on well-populated areas for maximum effect. Or well, don't want to use them at all unless you are looking for annihilation, which I still hope Putin is not looking for despite all the unreasonables (craziness) he exhibited so far.
  - sylware 4y ago
    There are 2 types of nukes: the small (tactical) and the big (deterrence). A few tactical nukes will wipe clean a front line. If putin's regime army on a front line does vanish in matter of few hours, expect the worst. Deterrence nukes are those which will wipe clean all major Ukraine cities. As far as I understood putin's regime goals, true or not: - the since-2014 conflict in east-ukraine is "over". - the so-called neo-nazi azov bataillon was wiped (now they should deal with their own neo-nazi wagner pmc...) - the drug addicts??? - Some of the newly discovered fossil gas reserverd in ukrainian sea and land are under putin's regime control. - other true or false goals.
    - dragonwriter 4y ago
      > There are 2 types of nukes: the small (tactical) and the big (deterrence). It’s tactical and strategic, and they both serve a deterrence role (and even the tactical/strategic divide is debated as to its significance.)
      - sylware 4y ago
        Yep, the tactical ones would be mostly used as "big bombs" to win a front line. The big ones, to crush a whole country to make it surrender (or what's left of it).
    - necovek 4y ago
      Quick searches say the length of the frontline in Ukraine is ~2400km. Even if only 1/3 of that has any army on it, that's still 800km and I am not sure a "few tactical nukes will wipe clean a front line" that long.

sylware 4y ago

The threat of nukes was already done by putin. I don't know how many more warnings he will be willing to give, but if putin's regime wants to "wipe clean" a front line, I don't think they will give the ukrainian army time to move away.

necovek 4y ago
Nukes without a threat of using them are not much value: he's probably trying to reduce and limit involvement of other nations. "Wiping clean" kilometers of "a front line" (which is relatively "thin") would involve so many nukes and would involve so many non-army causalties that it doesn't make sense to use them for the purpose. Nukes have a circular effective area, so you want to use them on well-populated areas for maximum effect. Or well, don't want to use them at all unless you are looking for annihilation, which I still hope Putin is not looking for despite all the unreasonables (craziness) he exhibited so far.
- sylware 4y ago
  There are 2 types of nukes: the small (tactical) and the big (deterrence). A few tactical nukes will wipe clean a front line. If putin's regime army on a front line does vanish in matter of few hours, expect the worst. Deterrence nukes are those which will wipe clean all major Ukraine cities. As far as I understood putin's regime goals, true or not: - the since-2014 conflict in east-ukraine is "over". - the so-called neo-nazi azov bataillon was wiped (now they should deal with their own neo-nazi wagner pmc...) - the drug addicts??? - Some of the newly discovered fossil gas reserverd in ukrainian sea and land are under putin's regime control. - other true or false goals.
  - dragonwriter 4y ago
    > There are 2 types of nukes: the small (tactical) and the big (deterrence). It’s tactical and strategic, and they both serve a deterrence role (and even the tactical/strategic divide is debated as to its significance.)
    - sylware 4y ago
      Yep, the tactical ones would be mostly used as "big bombs" to win a front line. The big ones, to crush a whole country to make it surrender (or what's left of it).
  - necovek 4y ago
    Quick searches say the length of the frontline in Ukraine is ~2400km. Even if only 1/3 of that has any army on it, that's still 800km and I am not sure a "few tactical nukes will wipe clean a front line" that long.