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It's a technical problem, too. You can't just run an extension cord and happily power vehicles for an apartment block.

theshrike79 4y ago
You need to run a fancy extension cord and use a professional to do it. That's pretty much it. You can spend a little extra to get load balancing if needed, the tech is multiple decades old. The only issue is people being against it politically/socially.
- dmitriid 4y ago
  Ah yes. Let's forget about the additional load on the grid. All we have to do is run a fancy cord
  - theshrike79 4y ago
    Load management is 50+ year old technology, you don't need a javascript-powered IoT device with NFTs and Blockchain to do it. The chargers can either do it by themselves (adjust load to match hookup to grid) or the power company can manage it. Usually it's a lot easier just to manage it locally.
    - dmitriid 4y ago
      Ah yes. That's probably the reason that you "just" need to install a separate substation next to charging stations. Because it's "just" easy with a 50+ year technology.
      - theshrike79 4y ago
        Ah, we seem to have differing views of what is a "charging station". You're thinking of the fridge-sized units with the wrist thick black CCS cable. Yes, those need very specific grid hookups. I'm thinking of, you know, a household plug. The kind an American would plug in their dryer to. You don't need a separate substation to run a dryer, right? Even if an apartment building has 20 of them. One of those can charge 100-150km of range to a car overnight easily, which is more than the average person drives every day. YMMV.
        dmitriid 4y ago
        > You don't need a separate substation to run a dryer, right? Oh yes, you do. If too many people run too many electrical appliances, the grid needs to be upgraded.
hampereddustbin 4y ago
Depends on your aparment blocks of course. Over here we have parking spaces for residdents living in apartments, which have electrical outlets. The space is already there, just needs an electrical upgrade
- dmitriid 4y ago
  "just" carries a lot of weight in that sentence
  - hampereddustbin 4y ago
    Considering we've switched from overhanging wires to putting our electric infrastructure underground (very, very expensive), I think we can pull off upgrades in parking lots too.

You need to run a fancy extension cord and use a professional to do it. That's pretty much it. You can spend a little extra to get load balancing if needed, the tech is multiple decades old. The only issue is people being against it politically/socially.

dmitriid 4y ago
Ah yes. Let's forget about the additional load on the grid. All we have to do is run a fancy cord
- theshrike79 4y ago
  Load management is 50+ year old technology, you don't need a javascript-powered IoT device with NFTs and Blockchain to do it. The chargers can either do it by themselves (adjust load to match hookup to grid) or the power company can manage it. Usually it's a lot easier just to manage it locally.
  - dmitriid 4y ago
    Ah yes. That's probably the reason that you "just" need to install a separate substation next to charging stations. Because it's "just" easy with a 50+ year technology.
    - theshrike79 4y ago
      Ah, we seem to have differing views of what is a "charging station". You're thinking of the fridge-sized units with the wrist thick black CCS cable. Yes, those need very specific grid hookups. I'm thinking of, you know, a household plug. The kind an American would plug in their dryer to. You don't need a separate substation to run a dryer, right? Even if an apartment building has 20 of them. One of those can charge 100-150km of range to a car overnight easily, which is more than the average person drives every day. YMMV.
      - dmitriid 4y ago
        > You don't need a separate substation to run a dryer, right? Oh yes, you do. If too many people run too many electrical appliances, the grid needs to be upgraded.

hampereddustbin 4y ago

Depends on your aparment blocks of course. Over here we have parking spaces for residdents living in apartments, which have electrical outlets. The space is already there, just needs an electrical upgrade

dmitriid 4y ago
"just" carries a lot of weight in that sentence
- hampereddustbin 4y ago
  Considering we've switched from overhanging wires to putting our electric infrastructure underground (very, very expensive), I think we can pull off upgrades in parking lots too.