> These are not entry level machines Yes they are. To put some perspective, my current machine (Bezzera BZ10) costs about $1,700 USD and it's not even close to

> These are not entry level machines Yes they are. To put some perspective, my current machine (Bezzera BZ10) costs about $1,700 USD and it's not even close to being a high end machine. Respectfully, you don't know what you're talking about. Even the Delongi Dedica, which is at the bottom end of espresso machines, has an OPV valve.