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Leaving it some entity like the Linux Foundation likely would have been much much worse.

by 0x6c6f6c 4y ago

hoseja 4y ago
"As a CEO of Linux Foundation, I too deserve a competitive compensation package, like the CEO of Mozilla Foundation."
- bamboozled 4y ago
  Is this a real quote ?
  - hoseja 4y ago
    No, just an extrapolation.
bamboozled 4y ago
Why would that be worse ?
- capableweb 4y ago
  "Design by committee" is a great way to create something that works for a lot of people, but is average at best. If you want to create something that really excels, you need someone to drive home the vision and that's really hard to do when you're more than one, because it's really hard to be 100% on the same page. Not to say it's impossible, it's just a lot harder.
- mschuster91 4y ago
  It's the same principle as with the largely family-owned German Mittelstand - so many of these companies are "hidden champions" are where they are because their leadership / ownership doesn't have to bow to the will of some obscure "committee", but can do what they feel is right for the company and will ensure its long-term success. In contrast, transferring the trademark to a committee-run foundation (or to go into economy analogy again, a company that's traded on the stock market), the incentives for those in control can drift: short-term profit wins over long-term interests (e.g. trust of the public). We've seen way too many organizations in the FOSS world fall victim to that, most notably Mozilla and MySQL - the former is always embroiled into some sort of scandal and Firefox usage has fallen through the floor, the latter was mismanaged by Sun and eventually Oracle so hard that its co-founder was forced to fork off the codebase.
  - bamboozled 4y ago
    Then don't we just take the source code (which we have the legal right to) and make some other Linux?
    - mschuster91 4y ago
      You can do that any time you want, but enough deviation from the mainline kernel tree and you're no longer allowed to call it Linux.
- MonkeyClub 4y ago
  Apart from the “design by committee” argument, the Linux Foundation seems to be ... slightly evil, with so many WEF members filling up its ranks.
  - bamboozled 4y ago
    What is a WEF member?
    - MonkeyClub 4y ago
      A member of the WEF, naturally. https://www.weforum.org/communities/forum-members https://www.weforum.org/communities/forum-members

Leaving it some entity like the Linux Foundation likely would have been much much worse.

hoseja 4y ago

"As a CEO of Linux Foundation, I too deserve a competitive compensation package, like the CEO of Mozilla Foundation."

bamboozled 4y ago
Is this a real quote ?
- hoseja 4y ago
  No, just an extrapolation.

bamboozled 4y ago

Why would that be worse ?

capableweb 4y ago
"Design by committee" is a great way to create something that works for a lot of people, but is average at best. If you want to create something that really excels, you need someone to drive home the vision and that's really hard to do when you're more than one, because it's really hard to be 100% on the same page. Not to say it's impossible, it's just a lot harder.
mschuster91 4y ago
It's the same principle as with the largely family-owned German Mittelstand - so many of these companies are "hidden champions" are where they are because their leadership / ownership doesn't have to bow to the will of some obscure "committee", but can do what they feel is right for the company and will ensure its long-term success. In contrast, transferring the trademark to a committee-run foundation (or to go into economy analogy again, a company that's traded on the stock market), the incentives for those in control can drift: short-term profit wins over long-term interests (e.g. trust of the public). We've seen way too many organizations in the FOSS world fall victim to that, most notably Mozilla and MySQL - the former is always embroiled into some sort of scandal and Firefox usage has fallen through the floor, the latter was mismanaged by Sun and eventually Oracle so hard that its co-founder was forced to fork off the codebase.
- bamboozled 4y ago
  Then don't we just take the source code (which we have the legal right to) and make some other Linux?
  - mschuster91 4y ago
    You can do that any time you want, but enough deviation from the mainline kernel tree and you're no longer allowed to call it Linux.
MonkeyClub 4y ago
Apart from the “design by committee” argument, the Linux Foundation seems to be ... slightly evil, with so many WEF members filling up its ranks.
- bamboozled 4y ago
  What is a WEF member?
  - MonkeyClub 4y ago
    A member of the WEF, naturally. https://www.weforum.org/communities/forum-members https://www.weforum.org/communities/forum-members