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> The problem is that EV cars have a finite lifespan on the most expensive component of the car... the battery Then they get less range, they don't die complet

> The problem is that EV cars have a finite lifespan on the most expensive component of the car... the battery Then they get less range, they don't die completely..

fooker 4y ago
This is one of those statements which are true only if you live in California. A 5-6 year old EV battery is unusable in winter at low-ish temperatures. Not only do you lose range when parked, you can be in real trouble if you’re stranded in a snowstorm. These issues are manageable with a new car of course!
- SECProto 4y ago
  > This is one of those statements which are true only if you live in California. I definitely don't live in California. > A 5-6 year old EV battery is unusable in winter at low-ish temperatures. A brand new EV gets less range in winter. A used EV gets less range in winter. A used EV in winter gets less range still. But that doesn't make it unusable, it just changes the use case. A 300km range (when new) EV might reliably get 50% range in winter, and 70% range when 6 years old, combining for 35% of new range when used and in winter - plenty of buffer for an average driver's commute, but wouldn't want to use it for a winter road trip. > you lose range when parked Same applies whether it's a new EV or a used. If I were driving an EV in the winter (gets to -20C here regularly), I'd definitely be looking to park somewhere I could plug in - which are pretty common. As is, I drive an ICE, and I have to turn my car on for a few minutes to warm the engine before I start driving (or else the windshield becomes an unusable fogged-up mess before the end of the block) > you can be in real trouble if you’re stranded in a snowstorm. Yes, monitoring weather is important regardless of your vehicle choice. The only time I've been stuck in a snowstorm was when knowingly going for a weekend camping trip when a blizzard was forecast. (the solution was bring extra food in case we got stuck) > These issues are manageable with a new car of course! Or used. It's all about anticipating a situation.
- adrianN 4y ago
  ICEs have less range in winter too and you're always in trouble if you're stranded in a snowstorm.

> The problem is that EV cars have a finite lifespan on the most expensive component of the car... the battery Then they get less range, they don't die completely..

fooker 4y ago

This is one of those statements which are true only if you live in California. A 5-6 year old EV battery is unusable in winter at low-ish temperatures. Not only do you lose range when parked, you can be in real trouble if you’re stranded in a snowstorm. These issues are manageable with a new car of course!

SECProto 4y ago
> This is one of those statements which are true only if you live in California. I definitely don't live in California. > A 5-6 year old EV battery is unusable in winter at low-ish temperatures. A brand new EV gets less range in winter. A used EV gets less range in winter. A used EV in winter gets less range still. But that doesn't make it unusable, it just changes the use case. A 300km range (when new) EV might reliably get 50% range in winter, and 70% range when 6 years old, combining for 35% of new range when used and in winter - plenty of buffer for an average driver's commute, but wouldn't want to use it for a winter road trip. > you lose range when parked Same applies whether it's a new EV or a used. If I were driving an EV in the winter (gets to -20C here regularly), I'd definitely be looking to park somewhere I could plug in - which are pretty common. As is, I drive an ICE, and I have to turn my car on for a few minutes to warm the engine before I start driving (or else the windshield becomes an unusable fogged-up mess before the end of the block) > you can be in real trouble if you’re stranded in a snowstorm. Yes, monitoring weather is important regardless of your vehicle choice. The only time I've been stuck in a snowstorm was when knowingly going for a weekend camping trip when a blizzard was forecast. (the solution was bring extra food in case we got stuck) > These issues are manageable with a new car of course! Or used. It's all about anticipating a situation.
adrianN 4y ago
ICEs have less range in winter too and you're always in trouble if you're stranded in a snowstorm.