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I just recently listened to 2 great of Darknet Diaries covered Citizenlab, NSO, and Pegasus. https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/99/ https://darknetdiaries.com/

I just recently listened to 2 great of Darknet Diaries covered Citizenlab, NSO, and Pegasus. https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/99/ https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/99/ https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/100/ https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/100/ The gist is that the NSO group is a company that sells malware which they claim is only ever used to catch bad guys, but the podcast makes a pretty compelling case that they know that repressive governments and even companies use it to target journalists and activists.

yazzku 4y ago
No need to make a compelling case at this point, it is widely known. Israel has a large tech sector, much of which is directly or indirectly related to "security" and "defense", aka military and surveillance. Not much unlike the US either, but companies like NSO are at the top of their game and seem to have little restraint about whom their products are sold to.
29athrowaway 4y ago
The Computer Fraud and Abuse Act of 1986 doesn't apply to NSO because fuck logic. If you are NSO, you can openly commit computer fraud/abuse and even sell it as a product/service.
- orangepurple 4y ago
  Is NSO affiliated with The Israel Lobby? That may explain it.
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- winter_blue 4y ago
  Well, the CFAA can only be enforced against territories under United States jurisdiction.
  - ok_dad 4y ago
    The US could say “tighten controls on your defense contractors or lose our support” and then do that if they don’t listen. That’ll never happen though. I’m sure plenty of TLAs use NSO software.
  - kdomanski 4y ago
    That doesn’t stop the DoJ from extraditing foreign nationals who never set foot on US soil before.
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voytec 4y ago
> compelling case that they know that repressive governments and even companies use it to target journalists and activists. Poland's "Law and Justice" regime has apparently used Pegasus to spy on opposition senator Krzysztof Brejza[1] and other opposition politicians[2] [1] https://news.yahoo.com/ap-exclusive-polish-opposition-senator-164736906.html https://news.yahoo.com/ap-exclusive-polish-opposition-senato... https://techcrunch.com/2022/03/11/europe-pegasus-investigation/ https://techcrunch.com/2022/03/11/europe-pegasus-investigati... https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/27/22855390/poland-pegasus-spyware-opposition-brejza-nso https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/27/22855390/poland-pegasus-... [2] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/17/more-polish-opposition-figures-found-to-have-been-targeted-by-pegasus-spyware https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/17/more-polish-op... https://democratic-europe.eu/2022/01/18/citizen-lab-there-is-an-evidence-that-a-polish-opposition-senator-was-hacked-with-spyware/ https://democratic-europe.eu/2022/01/18/citizen-lab-there-is...

yazzku 4y ago

No need to make a compelling case at this point, it is widely known. Israel has a large tech sector, much of which is directly or indirectly related to "security" and "defense", aka military and surveillance. Not much unlike the US either, but companies like NSO are at the top of their game and seem to have little restraint about whom their products are sold to.

29athrowaway 4y ago

The Computer Fraud and Abuse Act of 1986 doesn't apply to NSO because fuck logic. If you are NSO, you can openly commit computer fraud/abuse and even sell it as a product/service.

orangepurple 4y ago
Is NSO affiliated with The Israel Lobby? That may explain it.
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winter_blue 4y ago
Well, the CFAA can only be enforced against territories under United States jurisdiction.
- ok_dad 4y ago
  The US could say “tighten controls on your defense contractors or lose our support” and then do that if they don’t listen. That’ll never happen though. I’m sure plenty of TLAs use NSO software.
- kdomanski 4y ago
  That doesn’t stop the DoJ from extraditing foreign nationals who never set foot on US soil before.
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voytec 4y ago

> compelling case that they know that repressive governments and even companies use it to target journalists and activists. Poland's "Law and Justice" regime has apparently used Pegasus to spy on opposition senator Krzysztof Brejza[1] and other opposition politicians[2] [1] https://news.yahoo.com/ap-exclusive-polish-opposition-senator-164736906.html https://news.yahoo.com/ap-exclusive-polish-opposition-senato... https://techcrunch.com/2022/03/11/europe-pegasus-investigation/ https://techcrunch.com/2022/03/11/europe-pegasus-investigati... https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/27/22855390/poland-pegasus-spyware-opposition-brejza-nso https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/27/22855390/poland-pegasus-... [2] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/17/more-polish-opposition-figures-found-to-have-been-targeted-by-pegasus-spyware https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/17/more-polish-op... https://democratic-europe.eu/2022/01/18/citizen-lab-there-is-an-evidence-that-a-polish-opposition-senator-was-hacked-with-spyware/ https://democratic-europe.eu/2022/01/18/citizen-lab-there-is...