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> On the "social media" label, HN is one, but it works pretty differently from the others. Same goes for MMORPGs, drawing sites, reddit gardening communities et

by II2II 4y ago

> On the "social media" label, HN is one, but it works pretty differently from the others. Same goes for MMORPGs, drawing sites, reddit gardening communities etc. Putting all of it in a single basket makes the discussion a lot harder I think. I become very much confused when people conflate HN with social media since I more closely associate it with a forum than media. Forums I associate with discourse. Media I associate with pushed content. Sure, most sites blur the lines but it is also pretty easy to figure out the underlying intent. Twitter is about pushing messages to an audience, even if a handful of people try to encourage conversations. Reddit communities are typically for people discussing things, even though Reddit tries to push other content.

Karrot_Kream 4y ago
There's discourse on social media, often in the form of comments. IG comments, YouTube comments, etc. I bin HN in social media where speakers are generally unverified, expertise is little known, and there's little social punishment for lying. Arguably the quality of discussion is higher here than other places, but I don't think so. I just find the topics here more relevant than other places.
makeitdouble 4y ago
> Forums I associate with discourse. Media I associate with pushed content. I see all services you describe as matching both, I assume your focus is really on the primary intent, or the ratio between the content publisher’s influence and the discourse amount ? Content is of course pushed on HN as well: we’re discussing articles that are posted for our consumption, often from the people who produced the content or are related to the product described. Even when unrelated to the content, there is an intent from the user pushing the article to influence the readers in a way or another (a “thought provocative” piece will be promoting an alternative angle on common issues) Twitter also has ton of discourse and it’s one of the few places where you’ll see an official statement from a gov. for instance be discussed in place, with lower restrictions on comments and sharing than let’s say Youtube for instance.

by II2II 4y ago

Karrot_Kream 4y ago

There's discourse on social media, often in the form of comments. IG comments, YouTube comments, etc. I bin HN in social media where speakers are generally unverified, expertise is little known, and there's little social punishment for lying. Arguably the quality of discussion is higher here than other places, but I don't think so. I just find the topics here more relevant than other places.

makeitdouble 4y ago

> Forums I associate with discourse. Media I associate with pushed content. I see all services you describe as matching both, I assume your focus is really on the primary intent, or the ratio between the content publisher’s influence and the discourse amount ? Content is of course pushed on HN as well: we’re discussing articles that are posted for our consumption, often from the people who produced the content or are related to the product described. Even when unrelated to the content, there is an intent from the user pushing the article to influence the readers in a way or another (a “thought provocative” piece will be promoting an alternative angle on common issues) Twitter also has ton of discourse and it’s one of the few places where you’ll see an official statement from a gov. for instance be discussed in place, with lower restrictions on comments and sharing than let’s say Youtube for instance.