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A Nation of Quitters

3 points by yarapavan 4y ago

jleyank 4y ago
Piss and moan. Piss and moan. If newer forms of activity can yield more money than traditional scut work jobs then pay more. People had two years to learn all sorts of things and that should have included management. Those that learned will move forward. Those that didn’t will wonder what to do with all those buggy whips. People wanted boomers to go away and many did (you’re welcome). The older end of the workforce are taking the jobs that opened up. This, probably, drags the entire workforce up the ladder. So the problem is entry level and scut work. There are new things like Amazon warehouses and delivery services to siphon off these people. Birth-rates were also lower so there’s probably fewer candidates.. Just reach into your cash drawer and make it worth people’s while.
citizenpaul 4y ago
Just another shame article from the big media world trying to make people accept bad working conditions. Rather than just improving the working conditions.
jschveibinz 4y ago
As a regular consumer of this stuff, opinion piece or otherwise, I like to see data. Not data that is abstractly connected to an opinion like “parents with 1.6 trillion dollars,” but real data: how many quitters, what percentage of the age group, where and how were the data collected, does quitting mean “temporary unemployment” or “going back to school”, etc. ? Because if you are writing an opinion piece to change people’s minds, you need to be credible. If this were written by a well known sociologist, then maybe the author gets a pass. But just anyone who can press keys on a keyboard? Nah. They need to back it up with data or forget about writing it. This particular opinion piece has no relevant supporting data, so it’s useless except to portray one group of people in a potentially false light and appeal to another group of people who eat that up. And that’s just sad. So, I guess this is where we are with a newspaper that used to stand for so much more. What a shame.

3 points by yarapavan 4y ago

Piss and moan. Piss and moan. If newer forms of activity can yield more money than traditional scut work jobs then pay more. People had two years to learn all sorts of things and that should have included management. Those that learned will move forward. Those that didn’t will wonder what to do with all those buggy whips. People wanted boomers to go away and many did (you’re welcome). The older end of the workforce are taking the jobs that opened up. This, probably, drags the entire workforce up the ladder. So the problem is entry level and scut work. There are new things like Amazon warehouses and delivery services to siphon off these people. Birth-rates were also lower so there’s probably fewer candidates.. Just reach into your cash drawer and make it worth people’s while.

citizenpaul 4y ago

Just another shame article from the big media world trying to make people accept bad working conditions. Rather than just improving the working conditions.

jschveibinz 4y ago

As a regular consumer of this stuff, opinion piece or otherwise, I like to see data. Not data that is abstractly connected to an opinion like “parents with 1.6 trillion dollars,” but real data: how many quitters, what percentage of the age group, where and how were the data collected, does quitting mean “temporary unemployment” or “going back to school”, etc. ? Because if you are writing an opinion piece to change people’s minds, you need to be credible. If this were written by a well known sociologist, then maybe the author gets a pass. But just anyone who can press keys on a keyboard? Nah. They need to back it up with data or forget about writing it. This particular opinion piece has no relevant supporting data, so it’s useless except to portray one group of people in a potentially false light and appeal to another group of people who eat that up. And that’s just sad. So, I guess this is where we are with a newspaper that used to stand for so much more. What a shame.