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Most of the places they drive their car to, will have chargers. Supermarkets, workplaces, parks, etc. You don't need to charge at home. It's just the most conv

Most of the places they drive their car to, will have chargers. Supermarkets, workplaces, parks, etc. You don't need to charge at home. It's just the most convenient.

birdyrooster 4y ago
Many of those parking spaces in major cities cannot handle even a slight increase in congestion due to charging, and the time to plug-in and un plug is too much for them. Think about your local downtown Whole Foods parking lot.
- dangrossman 4y ago
  My local Whole Foods parking lot has had EV charging spaces for 8 years. I used to charge my Nissan LEAF there while grocery shopping back in the day.
  - krater23 4y ago
    And how many others can charge when you charge? 5? Or fewer?
    - dangrossman 4y ago
      4, and I never saw all 4 in use at once. You don't need infrastructure for 200 million EVs today if there's only 2 million on the road. They'll grow together.
    - neon_electro 4y ago
      Is that a bad thing if it’s still early days for EVs? Do you not think that more stations can and will be installed?
- Balero 4y ago
  Why are you driving downtown to supermarket? Perhaps your city needs to be planned in a more efficient and livable manner.
ekianjo 4y ago
You stay at the supermarket the whole day ?
- selectodude 4y ago
  No, but it’s usually 30 minutes. Enough to take a normal EV from 20-80 percent.
  - ars 4y ago
    No it's not, not unless you have Tesla style massive DC chargers. And they are not putting those in every supermarket. Regular chargers will barely give you enough charge to get home in that 30 minutes.
    - fshr 4y ago
      > No it's not, not unless you have Tesla style massive DC chargers. And they are not putting those in every supermarket. Regular chargers will barely give you enough charge to get home in that 30 minutes. Not it's not, not unless you have IBM style massive cabinet hard drives. And they are not putting those in every home computer. Regular hard drives will barely give you enough disk space to store plaintext documents. Sorry, you just sound like people that used to say things like "you'll never need more than 1 GiB of hard drive space." Things will evolve. It'll happen faster than you anticipate.
      - krater23 4y ago
        Wake up, we don't talk about computers. We talk about cars. Big heavy maschines that can't be shrinked and where the technic is not evolving as fast as the first years in computers. You will need the same amount of energy to bring a car today or in 20 years from a to b. And this amount of energy needs to be transfered to the place where you want to charge your battery. And there is the problem that will not change in 20 years. You can supercharge 5 cars an a parking lot now, but for 50 cars you need a complete other infrastructur thats bind on the same physics that cars have today. And no, you never ned 1GB of hard drive for anything that was done with computers at this time. Now we use computers for completly other things. I suppose on cars the usage will not change as far as with computers.
threeseed 4y ago
> Supermarkets, workplaces Problem there is that the trend is towards home delivery and working from home.
- BLKNSLVR 4y ago
  They're not using the car, so the battery isn't depleting.
  - assttoasstmgr 4y ago
    Tell that to all the Tesla owners that leave their cars at the airport and return to a dead battery.
    - dangrossman 4y ago
      That's a (mostly early model year) Tesla problem, not an electric car problem. My Nissan LEAF sat unused in my driveway for several months in 2020 and its charge level didn't drop at all.
      - Yeroc 4y ago
        I would think the ambient outdoor temperature would have a rather large impact here. If it's cold outside the car has to use battery power to keep the batteries themselves within operating range.
        dangrossman 4y ago
        The Nissan LEAF's battery warmer only activates at -17C and turns off at -10C. It does not reach -17C any day of the year in much of the world.
    - recursive 4y ago
      First I'd have to find them, but I've never heard of that happening. On the other hand, I've had plenty of battery problems in ICE cars.

Most of the places they drive their car to, will have chargers. Supermarkets, workplaces, parks, etc. You don't need to charge at home. It's just the most convenient.

birdyrooster 4y ago

Many of those parking spaces in major cities cannot handle even a slight increase in congestion due to charging, and the time to plug-in and un plug is too much for them. Think about your local downtown Whole Foods parking lot.

dangrossman 4y ago
My local Whole Foods parking lot has had EV charging spaces for 8 years. I used to charge my Nissan LEAF there while grocery shopping back in the day.
- krater23 4y ago
  And how many others can charge when you charge? 5? Or fewer?
  - dangrossman 4y ago
    4, and I never saw all 4 in use at once. You don't need infrastructure for 200 million EVs today if there's only 2 million on the road. They'll grow together.
  - neon_electro 4y ago
    Is that a bad thing if it’s still early days for EVs? Do you not think that more stations can and will be installed?
Balero 4y ago
Why are you driving downtown to supermarket? Perhaps your city needs to be planned in a more efficient and livable manner.

ekianjo 4y ago

You stay at the supermarket the whole day ?

selectodude 4y ago
No, but it’s usually 30 minutes. Enough to take a normal EV from 20-80 percent.
- ars 4y ago
  No it's not, not unless you have Tesla style massive DC chargers. And they are not putting those in every supermarket. Regular chargers will barely give you enough charge to get home in that 30 minutes.
  - fshr 4y ago
    > No it's not, not unless you have Tesla style massive DC chargers. And they are not putting those in every supermarket. Regular chargers will barely give you enough charge to get home in that 30 minutes. Not it's not, not unless you have IBM style massive cabinet hard drives. And they are not putting those in every home computer. Regular hard drives will barely give you enough disk space to store plaintext documents. Sorry, you just sound like people that used to say things like "you'll never need more than 1 GiB of hard drive space." Things will evolve. It'll happen faster than you anticipate.
    - krater23 4y ago
      Wake up, we don't talk about computers. We talk about cars. Big heavy maschines that can't be shrinked and where the technic is not evolving as fast as the first years in computers. You will need the same amount of energy to bring a car today or in 20 years from a to b. And this amount of energy needs to be transfered to the place where you want to charge your battery. And there is the problem that will not change in 20 years. You can supercharge 5 cars an a parking lot now, but for 50 cars you need a complete other infrastructur thats bind on the same physics that cars have today. And no, you never ned 1GB of hard drive for anything that was done with computers at this time. Now we use computers for completly other things. I suppose on cars the usage will not change as far as with computers.

threeseed 4y ago

> Supermarkets, workplaces Problem there is that the trend is towards home delivery and working from home.

BLKNSLVR 4y ago
They're not using the car, so the battery isn't depleting.
- assttoasstmgr 4y ago
  Tell that to all the Tesla owners that leave their cars at the airport and return to a dead battery.
  - dangrossman 4y ago
    That's a (mostly early model year) Tesla problem, not an electric car problem. My Nissan LEAF sat unused in my driveway for several months in 2020 and its charge level didn't drop at all.
    - Yeroc 4y ago
      I would think the ambient outdoor temperature would have a rather large impact here. If it's cold outside the car has to use battery power to keep the batteries themselves within operating range.
      - dangrossman 4y ago
        The Nissan LEAF's battery warmer only activates at -17C and turns off at -10C. It does not reach -17C any day of the year in much of the world.
  - recursive 4y ago
    First I'd have to find them, but I've never heard of that happening. On the other hand, I've had plenty of battery problems in ICE cars.