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Fair point. The alternative however is to spend the same amount (or more) on an EV and have to rent a car for weekend trips.

by josho 4y ago

sircastor 4y ago
That feels all over a better deal to me. I don’t need a long-range vehicle often.
crooked-v 4y ago
What weekend trips are you taking that are regularly more than 250 miles and completely out of reach of a 240V outlet for overnight charging?
- nicoburns 4y ago
  I don't own a car (I only do occasional weekend trips, so renting as required is much cheaper). But both of the two trips I've done this year met your criteria. They were camping trips to campsites without power outlets available.
- notch656a 4y ago
  Not sure about OP but I live in the American southwest and that would be a pretty normal weekend trip. No 240V outlets in the desert, and if you run out of electricity and can't get ahold of someone you will likely die unless you can find a water source quickly. A 5 gallon jug of gas in the bed will generally at least get me to a spring if I run out of gas -- perhaps there's the 5 gallon jug equivalent of extra batteries? I'd also note the depreciation on toyota off-road capable vehicles that would go on these kind of weekend trips (like gas rav4 / tacoma) is stupid low. Like stupid stupid low. To the point many people who bought new in 2020 might get more money now than before they drove it off the lot. Not sure if there's any EVs with only ~29.5% 5 year expected depreciation like say a Tacoma Toyota has.
  - hedora 4y ago
    The price difference between a new Nissan leaf and a five year old one is currently less than the federal tax subsidy. Teslas are similar.
    - notch656a 4y ago
      Shifting the subsidy onto some other poor sod doesn't eliminate the depreciation. It's like saying I didn't lose money because grandma gave me $7500 to buy the car.

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Fair point. The alternative however is to spend the same amount (or more) on an EV and have to rent a car for weekend trips.

by josho 4y ago

Fair point. The alternative however is to spend the same amount (or more) on an EV and have to rent a car for weekend trips.

sircastor 4y ago
That feels all over a better deal to me. I don’t need a long-range vehicle often.
crooked-v 4y ago
What weekend trips are you taking that are regularly more than 250 miles and completely out of reach of a 240V outlet for overnight charging?
- nicoburns 4y ago
  I don't own a car (I only do occasional weekend trips, so renting as required is much cheaper). But both of the two trips I've done this year met your criteria. They were camping trips to campsites without power outlets available.
- notch656a 4y ago
  Not sure about OP but I live in the American southwest and that would be a pretty normal weekend trip. No 240V outlets in the desert, and if you run out of electricity and can't get ahold of someone you will likely die unless you can find a water source quickly. A 5 gallon jug of gas in the bed will generally at least get me to a spring if I run out of gas -- perhaps there's the 5 gallon jug equivalent of extra batteries? I'd also note the depreciation on toyota off-road capable vehicles that would go on these kind of weekend trips (like gas rav4 / tacoma) is stupid low. Like stupid stupid low. To the point many people who bought new in 2020 might get more money now than before they drove it off the lot. Not sure if there's any EVs with only ~29.5% 5 year expected depreciation like say a Tacoma Toyota has.
  - hedora 4y ago
    The price difference between a new Nissan leaf and a five year old one is currently less than the federal tax subsidy. Teslas are similar.
    - notch656a 4y ago
      Shifting the subsidy onto some other poor sod doesn't eliminate the depreciation. It's like saying I didn't lose money because grandma gave me $7500 to buy the car.