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My grand-father was gassed in Verdun (WW I). All his children had pulmonary problems. Some of his grand-children also have similar problems.

Eisenstein 4y ago
I was doubtful of your implication of a causal relationship between poison gassing of a father and problems passed down genetically. However upon some research I came upon this study, which definitely supports such a relationship: * https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2917398/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2917398/
- SpikeDad 4y ago
  This study is a joke. 20 years after exposure. Self reporting exposure. Done by a country with a huge reason to find positive results so bias is a strong possibility. No mechanism for how exposure could result in genetic modification specific to pulmonary issues.
  - Eisenstein 4y ago
    > 20 years after exposure. Why is this a problem? They have medical records in Iran. It is a developed country. > Done by a country with a huge reason to find positive results What reason? This study was done long after the Iran Iraq war. > No mechanism for how exposure could result in genetic modification specific to pulmonary issues. Does every study have to explain a mechanism for cause?
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linschn 4y ago
How hold are you? Even if he had you in his forties, you would be more than eighty now. I don't know much about epigenetics, but I would be highly surprised if this had anything to do with that.
- collegeburner 4y ago
  not necessarily. a lot of the people in WWI were young and lied about their age. say he was 16, so born in 1900. he and this person's dad could have very well had kids at 50 or so, i.e. father born 1950 and the person born in 2000 making him young. though he is probably a bit older than this.
  - dane-pgp 4y ago
    That reminds me of the strange little piece of trivia that the last surviving US Civil War widow died in 2020: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/08/last-civil-war-widow-dies-helen-viola-jackson https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/08/last-civil-w...
  - samatman 4y ago
    The grandson of President John Tyler died at 95 years of age in 2020. John Tyler was President starting in 1841. It is indeed possible.
    - chucksmash 4y ago
      This has been my go-to "that can't possibly be right" factoid for years. He had two living grandsons the last time someone made me Google it. It looks like one of them indeed passed away in 2020, but the other is still alive albeit no longer in good health[1]. I can never remember when John Tyler was President but he was born in 1790, 232 years ago, which makes it sound even more implausible. We are further in history from the Ice Bucket Challenge than this still-living guy's grandfather's birth was from the end of the American Revolutionary War. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Ruffin_Tyler https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Ruffin_Tyler
      - RockingGoodNite 4y ago
        This is truly incredible. The grandson of a president from the 1840's has to bear witness to ... the Tic Tok age and China's growing mind control of the world's population.

Eisenstein 4y ago

I was doubtful of your implication of a causal relationship between poison gassing of a father and problems passed down genetically. However upon some research I came upon this study, which definitely supports such a relationship: * https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2917398/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2917398/

SpikeDad 4y ago
This study is a joke. 20 years after exposure. Self reporting exposure. Done by a country with a huge reason to find positive results so bias is a strong possibility. No mechanism for how exposure could result in genetic modification specific to pulmonary issues.
- Eisenstein 4y ago
  > 20 years after exposure. Why is this a problem? They have medical records in Iran. It is a developed country. > Done by a country with a huge reason to find positive results What reason? This study was done long after the Iran Iraq war. > No mechanism for how exposure could result in genetic modification specific to pulmonary issues. Does every study have to explain a mechanism for cause?
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linschn 4y ago

How hold are you? Even if he had you in his forties, you would be more than eighty now. I don't know much about epigenetics, but I would be highly surprised if this had anything to do with that.

collegeburner 4y ago
not necessarily. a lot of the people in WWI were young and lied about their age. say he was 16, so born in 1900. he and this person's dad could have very well had kids at 50 or so, i.e. father born 1950 and the person born in 2000 making him young. though he is probably a bit older than this.
- dane-pgp 4y ago
  That reminds me of the strange little piece of trivia that the last surviving US Civil War widow died in 2020: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/08/last-civil-war-widow-dies-helen-viola-jackson https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/08/last-civil-w...
- samatman 4y ago
  The grandson of President John Tyler died at 95 years of age in 2020. John Tyler was President starting in 1841. It is indeed possible.
  - chucksmash 4y ago
    This has been my go-to "that can't possibly be right" factoid for years. He had two living grandsons the last time someone made me Google it. It looks like one of them indeed passed away in 2020, but the other is still alive albeit no longer in good health[1]. I can never remember when John Tyler was President but he was born in 1790, 232 years ago, which makes it sound even more implausible. We are further in history from the Ice Bucket Challenge than this still-living guy's grandfather's birth was from the end of the American Revolutionary War. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Ruffin_Tyler https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Ruffin_Tyler
    - RockingGoodNite 4y ago
      This is truly incredible. The grandson of a president from the 1840's has to bear witness to ... the Tic Tok age and China's growing mind control of the world's population.