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> I was paraphrasing. You put it in quotes and didn't mention any paraphrasing. Linus didn't write it. > Rust's UB guarantees Can you point out the normativ

> I was paraphrasing. You put it in quotes and didn't mention any paraphrasing. Linus didn't write it. > Rust's UB guarantees Can you point out the normative document that provides these guarantees? Rust doesn't have one as far as I know.

mustache_kimono 4y ago
> You put it in quotes and didn't mention any paraphrasing. Linus didn't write it. I think it's a fair characterization of what was said. Feel free, as everyone is, to read the entire thread again. I'm not a journalist. You have the primary source at your finger tips! > Can you point out the normative document that provides these guarantees? You're looking at the Rust reference right? https://doc.rust-lang.org/reference/behavior-considered-undefined.html https://doc.rust-lang.org/reference/behavior-considered-unde...
- topspin 4y ago
  > You're looking at the Rust reference right? Not normative, as stated here[1], linked from the page you cite. [1] https://doc.rust-lang.org/nomicon/index.html https://doc.rust-lang.org/nomicon/index.html
  - mustache_kimono 4y ago
    Okay? Do you think you have you quibbled enough? To be clear, I still think it's fine for Wedson to inform him even if the document is not a normative reference/specification? Even if these are just the expectations of API/Rust users?
    - topspin 4y ago
      > the expectations of API/Rust users? Pointing out whatever those are is fine. Linus pointing out the expectations of the Linux kernel is fine too, and no amount of invoking fictional formalisms trumps them.
      - mustache_kimono 4y ago
        I 100% agree. And if you read my comments you'd realize, I agree with Linus on the substance. I think the way he said it was dick-ish. That's it!
- topspin 4y ago
  > I think it's a fair characterization of what was said. I think inventing Linus quotes is unfair.
  - mustache_kimono 4y ago
    Again, not a journalist? You/everyone are supposed to have read the primary source, as it's the linked subject of our discussion. I think whatever expectations of fairness we have for internet comments -- I have far exceeded them. And now we have your comment pointing out... whatever it is you wanted to point out. Reader beware!

mustache_kimono 4y ago

> You put it in quotes and didn't mention any paraphrasing. Linus didn't write it. I think it's a fair characterization of what was said. Feel free, as everyone is, to read the entire thread again. I'm not a journalist. You have the primary source at your finger tips! > Can you point out the normative document that provides these guarantees? You're looking at the Rust reference right? https://doc.rust-lang.org/reference/behavior-considered-undefined.html https://doc.rust-lang.org/reference/behavior-considered-unde...

topspin 4y ago
> You're looking at the Rust reference right? Not normative, as stated here[1], linked from the page you cite. [1] https://doc.rust-lang.org/nomicon/index.html https://doc.rust-lang.org/nomicon/index.html
- mustache_kimono 4y ago
  Okay? Do you think you have you quibbled enough? To be clear, I still think it's fine for Wedson to inform him even if the document is not a normative reference/specification? Even if these are just the expectations of API/Rust users?
  - topspin 4y ago
    > the expectations of API/Rust users? Pointing out whatever those are is fine. Linus pointing out the expectations of the Linux kernel is fine too, and no amount of invoking fictional formalisms trumps them.
    - mustache_kimono 4y ago
      I 100% agree. And if you read my comments you'd realize, I agree with Linus on the substance. I think the way he said it was dick-ish. That's it!
topspin 4y ago
> I think it's a fair characterization of what was said. I think inventing Linus quotes is unfair.
- mustache_kimono 4y ago
  Again, not a journalist? You/everyone are supposed to have read the primary source, as it's the linked subject of our discussion. I think whatever expectations of fairness we have for internet comments -- I have far exceeded them. And now we have your comment pointing out... whatever it is you wanted to point out. Reader beware!