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Totally agree about the many issues with streaming services, but I don't see how physical media is the solution. It comes with its own issues, principally waste

Totally agree about the many issues with streaming services, but I don't see how physical media is the solution. It comes with its own issues, principally waste. Surely a solution to this problem would simply being able to purchase movies for download in a common and lossless format?

indigodaddy 4y ago
But they would never allow that because they would say it promotes ease of piracy even moreso?
- iamdamian 4y ago
  What about a DRM standard that's legally required to be portable across all devices and applications?
  - hypertele-Xii 4y ago
    That's just no DRM at all. How else would you ensure universal compatibility? They'd have to also mandate a universal chip into all devices and it's fairly obvious why that'll never happen. At least, we should hope not.
rchaud 4y ago
> Surely a solution to this problem would simply being able to purchase movies for download in a common and lossless format? This is not a solution because it reduces the price of the media to $0. So distributors have no incentive to do this.
- iggldiggl 4y ago
  On the one hand I understand that the circumstances of the respective markets (movies vs. other media) aren't directly comparable, but on the other hand - eBooks are often (though not always) available without DRM - to the extent that music is still sold instead of being streamed, no-DRM is more or less universal
  - rchaud 4y ago
    The eBook market is different, because its economics are different. Piracy costs video producers (TV, movies) more because the cost of production is higher, they spend way more in marketing, and most importantly, their power to set licensing fees for that IP is greatly diminished. Books for the most part are cheap for publishers to make and distribute; no one is getting $10m advances for a mansuscript. Yet they still charge $10 or more for the digital version!
maegul 4y ago
Surely waste is a problem with everything modern humanity does. Surely there’s an argument to be made that our waste budget ought to have a dedicated portion for the arts? Plus, what are the numbers on alternatives? How much “waste” or pollution is a byproduct of streaming?
ynbl_ 4y ago

indigodaddy 4y ago

But they would never allow that because they would say it promotes ease of piracy even moreso?

iamdamian 4y ago
What about a DRM standard that's legally required to be portable across all devices and applications?
- hypertele-Xii 4y ago
  That's just no DRM at all. How else would you ensure universal compatibility? They'd have to also mandate a universal chip into all devices and it's fairly obvious why that'll never happen. At least, we should hope not.

rchaud 4y ago

> Surely a solution to this problem would simply being able to purchase movies for download in a common and lossless format? This is not a solution because it reduces the price of the media to $0. So distributors have no incentive to do this.

iggldiggl 4y ago
On the one hand I understand that the circumstances of the respective markets (movies vs. other media) aren't directly comparable, but on the other hand - eBooks are often (though not always) available without DRM - to the extent that music is still sold instead of being streamed, no-DRM is more or less universal
- rchaud 4y ago
  The eBook market is different, because its economics are different. Piracy costs video producers (TV, movies) more because the cost of production is higher, they spend way more in marketing, and most importantly, their power to set licensing fees for that IP is greatly diminished. Books for the most part are cheap for publishers to make and distribute; no one is getting $10m advances for a mansuscript. Yet they still charge $10 or more for the digital version!

maegul 4y ago

Surely waste is a problem with everything modern humanity does. Surely there’s an argument to be made that our waste budget ought to have a dedicated portion for the arts? Plus, what are the numbers on alternatives? How much “waste” or pollution is a byproduct of streaming?

ynbl_ 4y ago