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In Germany we just stopped incentiving them because people just didn't charge them. They just didn't care.

• llampx 4y ago
  Maybe now with gas above 2€/liter, we'll see more people charging their PHEVs. However they are also a rich person's toy, since you need to charge them at home to have the battery-powered miles be cheaper than the petrol-powered ones ergo you need a home with a garage. At public chargers you pay much more than at home per kWh. On top of that, they have been incentivized (0,25 Regelung) for companies as fleet cars (Dienstwagen) and companies give out free petrol so you have no incentive to charge it at home using your own electricity when you can just fill up otherwise with free petrol.
  • Wesmio 4y ago
    Personally I think economic of scale is happening with EV and just skipping everything in between will just solve those issues. Better longer cheaper batteries for everyone. We are on the road to solving solid state batteries. I don't think we are throwing enough resources against those topics. This would solve so many issues at once.
• Tagbert 4y ago
  Was that for private vehicles that people bought themselves and paid for the fuel and electricity themselves? I remember a few years ago a study out of Europe of plugin hybrids that found the drivers didn’t plug them in. One the details came out we found that those were corporate vehicles assigned to them mainly for business use. They were reimbursed for gasoline purchases but were not reimbursed for electricity. The result was that they chose the option that results in less personal cost to them. I find it hard to believe that people will elect to spend more money on a plugin hybrid and then not bother plugging it in as long as they have an easy access to a power outlet. Just the extra cost of gasoline in that scenario should overcome the minor effort of developing a habit of plugging in when you get home.
  • MonaroVXR 4y ago
    I'm not sure if I'm right, but there was a thing/way in the Netherlands to reduce the initial cost of the vehicle to make it incredible cheap. They are called "Foutlanders" because of that.
  • schipplock 4y ago
    Mainly corporate vehicles, because in the end they were cheaper as you stated. Lobbyists at work, they are genuises. If you see a Mercedes E 300e, you can be certain it‘s a corporate car :). Or when in private hand, it‘s definitely the 2nd owner :). About not using the plug: when you are driving a corporate car, it‘s often because part of your job is driving around a lot. Driving to customers e.g. In these cases it‘s common in Germany that your employer pays for fuel (you get a specific card for the gas station). They allow you to use the car for anything else as well. So there is no incentive to use the plug :).
• asah 4y ago
  easy solution: expensive gas.
  • TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
    We have 50% tax on gas in EU, it does not work, only pushing up prices for end customers
    • llampx 4y ago
      As mentioned above, these PHEVs that weren't being plugged in were sold to corporate customers as company cars, and the company gave free gas along with the car. No incentive to bother to charge the car when the gas is free. Completely different scenario for private usage.
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