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Is that really a goal of accessibility, though? Are image descriptions not "separate"? If this is not enough, should no one have any images on the web at all?
by kixiQu 4y ago
Is that really a goal of accessibility, though? Are image descriptions not "separate"? If this is not enough, should no one have any images on the web at all?
I don't think we should discourage people from setting up systems that have this kind of accessibility, even if it's not as "pure" from the perspective of duplicated content.
- csande17 4y agoIndeed, the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines explicitly allow creating a separate accessible version of content and linking to it. They call it a "conforming alternate version": https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20161007/G190 https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20161007/G190 (The guidelines say it's preferred for everything to conform directly, but they use "artistic integrity" as an example of a situation where a conforming alternate version could be used. I'd say that applies here.)
- cantSpellSober 4y agoYes, it's an explicit goal of accessibility, and predates the web
- thrown_22 4y agoSo how did we encode smells for the noseless before the web?
- cantSpellSober 4y agoLosing our sense of smell is actually somewhat dangerous and more common than you think (can be lost temporarily due to illness). So we install smoke detectors and put expiration dates on things to detect danger without smell.
- thrown_22 4y agoYeah but how do you encode the smell of a rose to someone without a nose? You're being incredibly discriminatory by only giving the smelless a warning and nothing else.
- cantSpellSober 4y agoGreat question! People with a typical sense of smell get to experience the smell of expired food already, adding expiration dates for who can't is inclusive, not ex.
- thrown_22 4y agoThat's not the question I asked.
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- kixiQu 4y agoCan you cite someone talking about this? Another commenter has pointed to w3 stuff on non-conforming versions and from there I got here: https://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/conformance.html#uc-conforming-alt-versions-head https://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/conformance.html#... . You can't make a text description of a guitar solo that's "equal", much less not "separate"; I don't buy that people really think that we therefore shouldn't have music.