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And then they complain people pirate movies... why the hell people wouldn't? Not to mention, one movie is available with Netflix, another with Disney, yet anot

And then they complain people pirate movies... why the hell people wouldn't? Not to mention, one movie is available with Netflix, another with Disney, yet another with Prime and so on and so forth... how does all this even make any sense from a customer's point of view? We need physical media back. But, a little tweaked to modern way of consuming media. It would cost exorbitant amount of money for a single person to watch all of what that person watches these days. You can't expect him to buy physical media for all of these. Rentals help, but, as again, you don't own them. So, you can't afford to own all what you want, and renting is not owning at all. So, what's the solution? Maybe, movie studios should start with "cheap-to-rent-but-costly-to-own" model initially when a movie releases, and gradually as the time passes, the movie now becomes same price to own as was to rent initially... Streaming have sucked the life out of the entertainment business. It needs to do go away.

indigodaddy 4y ago
“ Maybe, movie studios should start with "cheap-to-rent-but-costly-to-own" model initially when a movie releases, and gradually as the time passes, the movie now becomes same price to own as was to rent initially...” Aren’t we seeing this exact trend already? Or are you saying new digital movies should cost even more than $20-30 initially?
goosedragons 4y ago
We need DRM free digital movies and we need better digital goods consumer rights. Why can't I lend my digital copy to a friend? Why can they just literally steal my copy of a movie? And before someone says "You're just buying a LiCeNSe", yeah that's the same as DVD and VHS but they couldn't come into my home and rip it off the shelf could they?
- midoridensha 4y ago
  You are just buying a license; the difference is that the DVD/VHS license let you watch the movie whenever you wanted, wherever you wanted, as long as you had the physical copy (though subject to region restrictions in the case of DVD). With streaming services, you're buying a license that gives the rightsholder the ability to take it away from you at any time they want. I'm not sure how this is even legal; it gives all the power to the rightsholder.
scarface74 4y ago
Most movies are still released on Blu-Ray. But there are very few movies that I want to actually own in physical form to rewatch. If I did, I would buy them.
js2 4y ago
> Not to mention, one movie is available with Netflix, another with Disney, yet another with Prime and so on and so forth... how does all this even make any sense from a customer's point of view? I started to watch Valley Girl (1983) on my Criterion subscription on Sep 30. On Oct 1, I went to finish it. Gone. Can't finish the movie on Criterion. According to Just Watch, I can finish it on Amazon Prime. Maybe? I have Criterion and I have Prime, but who's got time for this crap? I downloaded it from Usenet instead.
- indigodaddy 4y ago
  Yeah I remember seeing it show up on Prime. Then disappeared for a month or two. Then back on Prime. Weird how stuff disappears, if only for a few days/weeks/months. Happens on HBO Max frequently as well..
maegul 4y ago
We might be stuck with streaming as a “medium” for the time being. In line with your comment, I was wondering what the modern video rental would be. Blockbuster weren’t just sub-leasing their movies, they owned the physical copies. And any given video shop could have an excellent collection in one respect or another. The modern equivalent might be independent streaming services that legally own their video assets. Don’t know how viable that would be. But I found it useful as a contrast to the present where we are still in a compromise with studios in the wake of piracy.

indigodaddy 4y ago

“ Maybe, movie studios should start with "cheap-to-rent-but-costly-to-own" model initially when a movie releases, and gradually as the time passes, the movie now becomes same price to own as was to rent initially...” Aren’t we seeing this exact trend already? Or are you saying new digital movies should cost even more than $20-30 initially?

goosedragons 4y ago

We need DRM free digital movies and we need better digital goods consumer rights. Why can't I lend my digital copy to a friend? Why can they just literally steal my copy of a movie? And before someone says "You're just buying a LiCeNSe", yeah that's the same as DVD and VHS but they couldn't come into my home and rip it off the shelf could they?

midoridensha 4y ago
You are just buying a license; the difference is that the DVD/VHS license let you watch the movie whenever you wanted, wherever you wanted, as long as you had the physical copy (though subject to region restrictions in the case of DVD). With streaming services, you're buying a license that gives the rightsholder the ability to take it away from you at any time they want. I'm not sure how this is even legal; it gives all the power to the rightsholder.

scarface74 4y ago

Most movies are still released on Blu-Ray. But there are very few movies that I want to actually own in physical form to rewatch. If I did, I would buy them.

js2 4y ago

> Not to mention, one movie is available with Netflix, another with Disney, yet another with Prime and so on and so forth... how does all this even make any sense from a customer's point of view? I started to watch Valley Girl (1983) on my Criterion subscription on Sep 30. On Oct 1, I went to finish it. Gone. Can't finish the movie on Criterion. According to Just Watch, I can finish it on Amazon Prime. Maybe? I have Criterion and I have Prime, but who's got time for this crap? I downloaded it from Usenet instead.

indigodaddy 4y ago
Yeah I remember seeing it show up on Prime. Then disappeared for a month or two. Then back on Prime. Weird how stuff disappears, if only for a few days/weeks/months. Happens on HBO Max frequently as well..

maegul 4y ago

We might be stuck with streaming as a “medium” for the time being. In line with your comment, I was wondering what the modern video rental would be. Blockbuster weren’t just sub-leasing their movies, they owned the physical copies. And any given video shop could have an excellent collection in one respect or another. The modern equivalent might be independent streaming services that legally own their video assets. Don’t know how viable that would be. But I found it useful as a contrast to the present where we are still in a compromise with studios in the wake of piracy.