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Remember that the UK also has a private healthcare system — everyone pays for the public option, but if you have a lot of money you can get expensive care. The

by muglug 4y ago

Remember that the UK also has a private healthcare system — everyone pays for the public option, but if you have a lot of money you can get expensive care. The thing is that British people pretty much uniformally reject private healthcare, because they don’t think you should pay for something as basic as healthcare. Instead the big popular drive is to make the NHS better (even though the current government is actively trying to make it worse).

sorokod 4y ago
Even private healthcare falls back on the public institutions for medical heavy lifting. Where do you think serious surgeries are performed?
origin_path 4y ago
Back here in reality, about 10% of Brits pay for private health care on top of the NHS, despite that they're forced to pay for the NHS as well, so that is in no way uniformally rejecting it. "because they don’t think you should pay for something as basic as healthcare." Everyone pays for the NHS. The idea you don't pay is obviously wrong, you just pay in different ways and at different times. No, the relatively low proportion (compared to other countries) is not due to some moral superiority of the British, but because the government monopolizes healthcare and forces people to pay for their service via taxes. Given how expensive healthcare is very few people can afford to pay for it twice. The NHS' supporters are always like this - trying to present support for it as a moral issue. It never was. The NHS isn't a moral issue, it's a bureaucracy for managing resource allocation. People warned for many years that such a system could never be reliable and would eventually collapse. They were ignored and now it's too late, the collapse has happened. Not because of the current government: Labour supported the policies that triggered the collapse even more strongly than the current government did. It's collapsed simply because it was inevitable.

by muglug 4y ago

sorokod 4y ago

Even private healthcare falls back on the public institutions for medical heavy lifting. Where do you think serious surgeries are performed?

origin_path 4y ago

Back here in reality, about 10% of Brits pay for private health care on top of the NHS, despite that they're forced to pay for the NHS as well, so that is in no way uniformally rejecting it. "because they don’t think you should pay for something as basic as healthcare." Everyone pays for the NHS. The idea you don't pay is obviously wrong, you just pay in different ways and at different times. No, the relatively low proportion (compared to other countries) is not due to some moral superiority of the British, but because the government monopolizes healthcare and forces people to pay for their service via taxes. Given how expensive healthcare is very few people can afford to pay for it twice. The NHS' supporters are always like this - trying to present support for it as a moral issue. It never was. The NHS isn't a moral issue, it's a bureaucracy for managing resource allocation. People warned for many years that such a system could never be reliable and would eventually collapse. They were ignored and now it's too late, the collapse has happened. Not because of the current government: Labour supported the policies that triggered the collapse even more strongly than the current government did. It's collapsed simply because it was inevitable.