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>> "Must been written by American, as European I find the village name very easy to pronounce. Same with finding exotic riding a bicycle." I'm going to go out

by Kye 4y ago

>> "Must been written by American, as European I find the village name very easy to pronounce. Same with finding exotic riding a bicycle." I'm going to go out on a limb and say a guy named N S Ramnath who lives in Bangalore (Twitter bio) is probably not American. edit to add: As a European, you might be making faulty assumptions about the pronunciation, while he's aware of numerous pitfalls that vex people who don't know the language. As an American, I see this a lot from Europeans who try to pronounce place names from indigenous languages that we take for granted. I've heard some hilarious verbal renderings of Okefenokee, for example.

Cockbrand 4y ago
Non-English native European here - now I'm curious, what's the correct pronunciation of Okefenokee? I found a video [1] which pretty much matches how I'd expect it to be pronounced [1] https://youtu.be/TMzoTPWBQ2Y https://youtu.be/TMzoTPWBQ2Y
- jraines 4y ago
  Haven’t watched the video but i live near that swamp and we call it “OH-key-fen-OH-key” Not sure how the native way to say it was, but a lot of natural features in South Georgia were taken, nominatively & literally, from the Muskogee people (“Creek Indians”)
BrandoElFollito 4y ago
You can go for a simpler case such as the city of Tucson. I pronounced it "takson", and my American friend had a laugh. He said it is obviously "tiuzon"
- Markoff 4y ago
  that doesn't really make any sense (friend's proununciation, yours/mine is the logical one), which OTOH is not surprising at all with how "logical" is English language, but I have higher expectations from non-native English speaking nations transcriptions, where I expect better accuracy than from English speaker's nonsense
Markoff 4y ago
then he is making as false assumptions as me, because at least by Latin transcription Matha-lampa-rai is nothing hard to pronounce (I would assume H is silent and everything else read phonetically, all As as A in Alphabet, with last I read as Y in Yes), someone please prove me wrong about this pronunciation, I don't care about nuances in local Indian languages but by transcription I would assume this pronunciation and if it's not correct then it's issue with transcription and not me the ones usually messing pronunciation of foreign names are native English speakers who are not using phonetical languages, as European speaking phonetic language I've had never problem to read correctly names of Chinese, Vietnamese, Indian, Malaysian or Thai cities as intended since we don't give special pronunciation to each letter as illogical English language as for Okefenokee I don't really care about transcriptions made by native English speakers which are usually hilariously bad

by Kye 4y ago

Cockbrand 4y ago

Non-English native European here - now I'm curious, what's the correct pronunciation of Okefenokee? I found a video [1] which pretty much matches how I'd expect it to be pronounced [1] https://youtu.be/TMzoTPWBQ2Y https://youtu.be/TMzoTPWBQ2Y

jraines 4y ago
Haven’t watched the video but i live near that swamp and we call it “OH-key-fen-OH-key” Not sure how the native way to say it was, but a lot of natural features in South Georgia were taken, nominatively & literally, from the Muskogee people (“Creek Indians”)

BrandoElFollito 4y ago

You can go for a simpler case such as the city of Tucson. I pronounced it "takson", and my American friend had a laugh. He said it is obviously "tiuzon"

Markoff 4y ago
that doesn't really make any sense (friend's proununciation, yours/mine is the logical one), which OTOH is not surprising at all with how "logical" is English language, but I have higher expectations from non-native English speaking nations transcriptions, where I expect better accuracy than from English speaker's nonsense

Markoff 4y ago

then he is making as false assumptions as me, because at least by Latin transcription Matha-lampa-rai is nothing hard to pronounce (I would assume H is silent and everything else read phonetically, all As as A in Alphabet, with last I read as Y in Yes), someone please prove me wrong about this pronunciation, I don't care about nuances in local Indian languages but by transcription I would assume this pronunciation and if it's not correct then it's issue with transcription and not me the ones usually messing pronunciation of foreign names are native English speakers who are not using phonetical languages, as European speaking phonetic language I've had never problem to read correctly names of Chinese, Vietnamese, Indian, Malaysian or Thai cities as intended since we don't give special pronunciation to each letter as illogical English language as for Okefenokee I don't really care about transcriptions made by native English speakers which are usually hilariously bad