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Curious, how many others are finding the comments here depressing? All the way from feminism is a plot by elite men, through fear of emasculation (literal castr

Curious, how many others are finding the comments here depressing? All the way from feminism is a plot by elite men, through fear of emasculation (literal castration, or declining testosterone), through men losing out because of incentivised quotas, and.... so on. Many of which are portrayed as "the problem" without any scrutiny, or appeal to evidence, or just a cursory consideration of whether these opinions actually take the conversation in productive directions. It looks a lot like the intersection of the Dunning-Kruger effect and (deep breath, I had to look this up) ultracrepidarianism [0] and oh yeah, fragile egos. It frankly makes me lose yet more confidence in HN as a place of remotely well-conceived opinion. [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sutor,_ne_ultra_crepidam https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sutor,_ne_ultra_crepidam

em-bee 4y ago
are you saying here that people here are not competent to talk about their own experience? sure, some of the speculations for the reasons of the experience may be over the top, but that doesn't negate the experience itself. part of the problem there is of course that every individual only has their own limited experience to draw on. this is not a topic generally studied. and it's also not a surprise that a larger crowd of HN readers are struggling socially. (and not to forget that the topic is likely self-selecting and attracting people who have a story to tell, or feel strongly about it.) so yes, HN is not representative of the average world, but some of the stories shared are indicators of serious problems in our society. and some are not new problems either. if you disagree with some of the points made here, please do provide counterpoints that we can discuss.
bradlys 4y ago
Modern feminism has definitely been taken over by PMCs to disenfranchise workers from uniting. You’d have to be blind to not notice the “if you critique anything we say/make/do then you are the enemy!” type of division being spread throughout modern feminism and most identity politics. It’s also used as a nice defense against any critiques in general. “Our movie doesn’t suck - it’s because you’re racist and sexist that you didn’t like it!” Why do you think the government back in the 60s started really narrowing in on MLK when he started talking about class? You think that was a coincidence…? Also the quotas thing is def real. Idk where you work (I work in SV) but I’ve seen them and I’ve seen how they affect men directly.

em-bee 4y ago

are you saying here that people here are not competent to talk about their own experience? sure, some of the speculations for the reasons of the experience may be over the top, but that doesn't negate the experience itself. part of the problem there is of course that every individual only has their own limited experience to draw on. this is not a topic generally studied. and it's also not a surprise that a larger crowd of HN readers are struggling socially. (and not to forget that the topic is likely self-selecting and attracting people who have a story to tell, or feel strongly about it.) so yes, HN is not representative of the average world, but some of the stories shared are indicators of serious problems in our society. and some are not new problems either. if you disagree with some of the points made here, please do provide counterpoints that we can discuss.

bradlys 4y ago

Modern feminism has definitely been taken over by PMCs to disenfranchise workers from uniting. You’d have to be blind to not notice the “if you critique anything we say/make/do then you are the enemy!” type of division being spread throughout modern feminism and most identity politics. It’s also used as a nice defense against any critiques in general. “Our movie doesn’t suck - it’s because you’re racist and sexist that you didn’t like it!” Why do you think the government back in the 60s started really narrowing in on MLK when he started talking about class? You think that was a coincidence…? Also the quotas thing is def real. Idk where you work (I work in SV) but I’ve seen them and I’ve seen how they affect men directly.