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The hallucinations do really help. Its very difficult to be depressed when all the trees are dancing and shining. LSD and the likes also avoids congnitive hallu

The hallucinations do really help. Its very difficult to be depressed when all the trees are dancing and shining. LSD and the likes also avoids congnitive hallucinations in most people so you're perfectly aware that it's just the wind.

peanut_worm 4y ago
What is a “cognitive hallucination”? LSD can absolutely change your thought patterns
sterlind 4y ago
set and setting. 2C-E showed me how I was a tiny spec, on a tiny speck of a planet, in an infinitely large universe, cold and unfeeling and uncaring, loved only in a tiny way by only a couple of other tiny specs, all of whom would die in a brief instant, cosmically speaking. it was like Carl Sagan showed up to tell me how meaningless my existence was. also, unbearable sensory overload as the panic attack worsened, seconds took minutes to pass, and my kidneys felt like they were failing (they were fine though.) the ego death was more or less permanent. my "self" never recovered, I had to build a new one. uncanny experiences of feeling like I wasn't my parents' real daughter, that my phone was a dead person's. I wasn't the same person. but this person is better than she was. so.. worth it in the (years-)long run, but hardly sunshine and roses! bad trips are scary. 2C-E is known for being cold and analytical, but I'm sure you can have similar experiences on acid.
Schroedingersat 4y ago
Unless the thing that makes the trees dance and shine rather than loom and glow ominously is the same thing that has the anti depressant effect. I personally think pearl clutching about the idea someone might have fun whilst benefiting from medicine is stupid and there's no reason psychedelics should not be available to anyone who is screened for potential contraindications, but there's no reason to assert that all of the different effects are inexorably linked.
- galaxyLogic 4y ago
  I'm thinking that "having fun" is what cures us from depression. Fun and "goodness". Love and happiness. Spirituality. Hallucinations can be fun, which is a good thing. But I think these scientists are onto something trying to extract the "good thing" that is good even without hallucinations.

peanut_worm 4y ago

What is a “cognitive hallucination”? LSD can absolutely change your thought patterns

sterlind 4y ago

set and setting. 2C-E showed me how I was a tiny spec, on a tiny speck of a planet, in an infinitely large universe, cold and unfeeling and uncaring, loved only in a tiny way by only a couple of other tiny specs, all of whom would die in a brief instant, cosmically speaking. it was like Carl Sagan showed up to tell me how meaningless my existence was. also, unbearable sensory overload as the panic attack worsened, seconds took minutes to pass, and my kidneys felt like they were failing (they were fine though.) the ego death was more or less permanent. my "self" never recovered, I had to build a new one. uncanny experiences of feeling like I wasn't my parents' real daughter, that my phone was a dead person's. I wasn't the same person. but this person is better than she was. so.. worth it in the (years-)long run, but hardly sunshine and roses! bad trips are scary. 2C-E is known for being cold and analytical, but I'm sure you can have similar experiences on acid.

Schroedingersat 4y ago

Unless the thing that makes the trees dance and shine rather than loom and glow ominously is the same thing that has the anti depressant effect. I personally think pearl clutching about the idea someone might have fun whilst benefiting from medicine is stupid and there's no reason psychedelics should not be available to anyone who is screened for potential contraindications, but there's no reason to assert that all of the different effects are inexorably linked.

galaxyLogic 4y ago
I'm thinking that "having fun" is what cures us from depression. Fun and "goodness". Love and happiness. Spirituality. Hallucinations can be fun, which is a good thing. But I think these scientists are onto something trying to extract the "good thing" that is good even without hallucinations.