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This is a really stupid comment and you should probably delete it. What they've done here is pretty close to what I've been wanting. They're now advertising the

by panny 4y ago

This is a really stupid comment and you should probably delete it. What they've done here is pretty close to what I've been wanting. They're now advertising the port speed, which is all anyone cares about. They're not advertising meaningless version numbers anymore. The only improvement I could offer now is to advertise the speed specifically. What they are labeling as 40gb 20gb 10gb 5gb is in actuality More like 2x 20gb 2x 10gb 1x 10gb 2x 5gb 1x 5gb Just specify exactly what the port/cable does. That's all you need to do. Version numbers mean nothing to me.

AkshatJ27 4y ago
Someone here doesn't understand jokes.
sixothree 4y ago
> They're not advertising meaningless version numbers anymore USB IF is the only party responsible for making version numbers meaningless. They are _extremely_ useful for other hardware products - HDMI, DisplayPort, WiFi, etc. There are scenarios where they would be useful. But USB IF decided to make them meaningless on purpose. Everything about their history related to version numbers seems anti-consumer to me. Intentionally obfuscating capabilities and confusing consumers was a terrible idea.
- blkhawk 4y ago
  Yes, it pretty much started when they decided not to "confuse" consumers the first time with USB 2.0. Claiming said fear they made all the USB 1.1 Devices USB 2 just with a different speed name. That way you could have USB 2.0 Mice and Keyboards. So you had USB-Low Speed for keyboards and mice and USB Full Speed for Full Speed and Hi Speed for High Speed (later Super speed for speed that was just super). Not confusing at all and it resulted in a time when you had to actually be darn careful not to get a USB 2.0 "full speed USB Hub" or other device. Later the same thing happened with regards to USB 3 a few years later. Manufacturers making these (for a time until the relevant usb3 parts become too cheap to bother with these near fakes) always pop up. At this point it will be a long painful process to replace all the hardware that doesn't follow the new scheme and USB version numbers could have been the much simpler solution. One thing missing from their specs is the glut of "Power only" cables on the market. By failing to giving recommendation there Chinese manufacturers will all just do whatever - Probably abusing the High-Speed based labeling and that will pollute those and again cause confusion. How hard is it to give them a symbol to print on their shitty power cables so people don't have to buy a cable tester?

by panny 4y ago

AkshatJ27 4y ago

Someone here doesn't understand jokes.

sixothree 4y ago

> They're not advertising meaningless version numbers anymore USB IF is the only party responsible for making version numbers meaningless. They are _extremely_ useful for other hardware products - HDMI, DisplayPort, WiFi, etc. There are scenarios where they would be useful. But USB IF decided to make them meaningless on purpose. Everything about their history related to version numbers seems anti-consumer to me. Intentionally obfuscating capabilities and confusing consumers was a terrible idea.

blkhawk 4y ago
Yes, it pretty much started when they decided not to "confuse" consumers the first time with USB 2.0. Claiming said fear they made all the USB 1.1 Devices USB 2 just with a different speed name. That way you could have USB 2.0 Mice and Keyboards. So you had USB-Low Speed for keyboards and mice and USB Full Speed for Full Speed and Hi Speed for High Speed (later Super speed for speed that was just super). Not confusing at all and it resulted in a time when you had to actually be darn careful not to get a USB 2.0 "full speed USB Hub" or other device. Later the same thing happened with regards to USB 3 a few years later. Manufacturers making these (for a time until the relevant usb3 parts become too cheap to bother with these near fakes) always pop up. At this point it will be a long painful process to replace all the hardware that doesn't follow the new scheme and USB version numbers could have been the much simpler solution. One thing missing from their specs is the glut of "Power only" cables on the market. By failing to giving recommendation there Chinese manufacturers will all just do whatever - Probably abusing the High-Speed based labeling and that will pollute those and again cause confusion. How hard is it to give them a symbol to print on their shitty power cables so people don't have to buy a cable tester?